Thanks, Surajit ji. What is worrying me is the colour of the fruit. I could not find any mention in the descriptions in the revision as well as in FBI <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/uvaria-hamiltonii-hookf-thomson-2> and also in the GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3154362> - specimens one <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303797685UYjl6u0kNCPO198B>, two <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1770631%2Fformat%2Flarge> and three <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1443509695466Hqigth1MvsLVpYTw> and four <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303774929ntdVD65xxh7w3O1L> .
On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 18:28, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > This is *Uvaria hamiltonii H.f. & T (var, hamiltonii)*. > > One problem area is that the Paper, "A revised Taxonomy for Uvaria > (Annonaceae)in Continental Asia" doesn't recognise its presence in that > region. But Sawmliana ji has taken care of it - > https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Eastern%20Uvaria.html > > Thank you. > Best regards, > Surajit Koley > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 20:13, surajit koley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Sir, I downloaded the "paper", from BioOne >> <https://bioone.org/journals/australian-systematic-botany/volume-31/issue-4/SB17051/A-revised-taxonomy-for-Uvaria-Annonaceae-in-continental-Asia/10.1071/SB17051.short#:~:text=A%20revised%20taxonomy%20for%20Uvaria%20(Annonaceae)%20in%20continental%20Asia&text=This%20paper%20presents%20a%20revision%20of%20Uvaria%20L.&text=Thirty%2Dthree%20species%20and%20species,Cyathostemma%20Griff.%2C%20Ellipeia%20Hook.>,(open >> access), about a month ago and already flipped itrs pages, but it didn't >> help. >> because - >> *Identification KEY starts with flower character*, which is not >> available in this discussion. >> >> I would request Swamliana ji to provide details like leaf and fruit size, >> if possible >> or, alternatively >> request him to go through the paper and decide himself. >> Another literature might (or might not) help - >> https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/85005#page/3/mode/1up. >> >> >> Thank you. >> Best regards, >> Surajit Koley >> >> >> On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 14:05, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Surajit. >>> Sending you the paper separately only, in case you can nail down the id. >>> >>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 20:55, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It looks similar to *Uvaria macrophylla* Roxb., at Hong Kong herbarium >>>> - https://www.herbarium.gov.hk/subpages.aspx?id=8908. The indumentum >>>> of epicarp can be hairy, as per Flora of China - >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200008601. >>>> >>>> But, Flora of "British India" and "Bengal Plats", both include its >>>> distribution in Bangladesh (Silhet, Chittagong). >>>> >>>> *Most importantly*, the treatment of the taxon is different in the >>>> paper titled, "A revised taxonomy for *Uvaria* (Annonaceae) in >>>> continental Asia". >>>> <https://bioone.org/journals/australian-systematic-botany/volume-31/issue-4/SB17051/A-revised-taxonomy-for-Uvaria-Annonaceae-in-continental-Asia/10.1071/SB17051.short#:~:text=A%20revised%20taxonomy%20for%20Uvaria%20(Annonaceae)%20in%20continental%20Asia&text=This%20paper%20presents%20a%20revision%20of%20Uvaria%20L.&text=Thirty%2Dthree%20species%20and%20species,Cyathostemma%20Griff.%2C%20Ellipeia%20Hook.> >>>> >>>> So, before any species determination one needs to examine thoroughly >>>> each and every morphological character of the submitted species. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> Best regards, >>>> Surajit Koley >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 11:45, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Then who identified it as Uvaria ? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 19:01, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Sawmliana ji >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr, 2021, 6:52 pm M Sawmliana, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Uvaria is not recorded/listed in Flora of Mizoram >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr, 2021, 5:37 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, Sawmliana ji, >>>>>>>> What are species listed in your area? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 16:11, M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Uvaria hamiltonii ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug, 2014, 6:32 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: 27 July 2014 06:10 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:195016] Uvaria sp. ? for ID >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Location : Mizoram >>>>>>>>>> Habit : Large climber >>>>>>>>>> Habitat : Growing wild in the forests. >>>>>>>>>> Note : Fruit edible. 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