Can it be *Uvaria argentea* Bl. var. *bracteata *as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3156920>- specimen <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Flive.staticflickr.com%2F65535%2F48262354742_3ff3cc3104_o_d.jpg> ?
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 16:55, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Surajit ji. > What is worrying me is the colour of the fruit. > I could not find any mention in the descriptions in the revision as well > as in FBI > <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/uvaria-hamiltonii-hookf-thomson-2> > and > also in the GBIF > <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3154362> - specimens > one > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303797685UYjl6u0kNCPO198B>, > two > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1770631%2Fformat%2Flarge> > and three > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1443509695466Hqigth1MvsLVpYTw> > and > four > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303774929ntdVD65xxh7w3O1L> > . > > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 18:28, surajit koley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> This is *Uvaria hamiltonii H.f. & T (var, hamiltonii)*. >> >> One problem area is that the Paper, "A revised Taxonomy for Uvaria >> (Annonaceae)in Continental Asia" doesn't recognise its presence in that >> region. But Sawmliana ji has taken care of it - >> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Eastern%20Uvaria.html >> >> Thank you. >> Best regards, >> Surajit Koley >> >> >> On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 20:13, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sir, I downloaded the "paper", from BioOne >>> <https://bioone.org/journals/australian-systematic-botany/volume-31/issue-4/SB17051/A-revised-taxonomy-for-Uvaria-Annonaceae-in-continental-Asia/10.1071/SB17051.short#:~:text=A%20revised%20taxonomy%20for%20Uvaria%20(Annonaceae)%20in%20continental%20Asia&text=This%20paper%20presents%20a%20revision%20of%20Uvaria%20L.&text=Thirty%2Dthree%20species%20and%20species,Cyathostemma%20Griff.%2C%20Ellipeia%20Hook.>,(open >>> access), about a month ago and already flipped itrs pages, but it didn't >>> help. >>> because - >>> *Identification KEY starts with flower character*, which is not >>> available in this discussion. >>> >>> I would request Swamliana ji to provide details like leaf and fruit >>> size, if possible >>> or, alternatively >>> request him to go through the paper and decide himself. >>> Another literature might (or might not) help - >>> https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/85005#page/3/mode/1up. >>> >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Best regards, >>> Surajit Koley >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 14:05, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Surajit. >>>> Sending you the paper separately only, in case you can nail down the id. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 20:55, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It looks similar to *Uvaria macrophylla* Roxb., at Hong Kong >>>>> herbarium - https://www.herbarium.gov.hk/subpages.aspx?id=8908. The >>>>> indumentum of epicarp can be hairy, as per Flora of China - >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200008601. >>>>> >>>>> But, Flora of "British India" and "Bengal Plats", both include its >>>>> distribution in Bangladesh (Silhet, Chittagong). >>>>> >>>>> *Most importantly*, the treatment of the taxon is different in the >>>>> paper titled, "A revised taxonomy for *Uvaria* (Annonaceae) in >>>>> continental Asia". >>>>> <https://bioone.org/journals/australian-systematic-botany/volume-31/issue-4/SB17051/A-revised-taxonomy-for-Uvaria-Annonaceae-in-continental-Asia/10.1071/SB17051.short#:~:text=A%20revised%20taxonomy%20for%20Uvaria%20(Annonaceae)%20in%20continental%20Asia&text=This%20paper%20presents%20a%20revision%20of%20Uvaria%20L.&text=Thirty%2Dthree%20species%20and%20species,Cyathostemma%20Griff.%2C%20Ellipeia%20Hook.> >>>>> >>>>> So, before any species determination one needs to examine thoroughly >>>>> each and every morphological character of the submitted species. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 11:45, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Then who identified it as Uvaria ? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 19:01, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Sawmliana ji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr, 2021, 6:52 pm M Sawmliana, <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Uvaria is not recorded/listed in Flora of Mizoram >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr, 2021, 5:37 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Sawmliana ji, >>>>>>>>> What are species listed in your area? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 16:11, M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Uvaria hamiltonii ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug, 2014, 6:32 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: 27 July 2014 06:10 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:195016] Uvaria sp. ? for ID >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Location : Mizoram >>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Large climber >>>>>>>>>>> Habitat : Growing wild in the forests. >>>>>>>>>>> Note : Fruit edible. 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