Sorry, Sir, on the contrary, seeing GBIF specimens of *C. leucantha*, I am
more convinced on leaf-base character. Glands cannot be seen in herbarium,
so I would not comment on that. In herbarium specimen, where most of the
flowers are already producing achenes, I couldn't make out phyllaries
characters.

In ray florets of *C. leucantha*, style(s) are pinkish (FoC) that can be
seen in FoI specimen, and in Australian specimen
<http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm>
...  which I couldn't see in eFI specimens, except one, which may have those
<https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RDF2a2IeTk8/m/2dQM7o0P8BsJ>,
but I could not find any gland there.

I have more points, but I would overlook those, because I cannot make
measurements by looking at the pictures.
I didn't study *C. sumatrensis*, so I would skip commenting on it.

*Please, do continue with the already established ids of all threads (of C.
leucantha) because this is something beyond my brain capacity*.

Thank you
With regards
surajit koley



On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 18:17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Surajit ji.
> I think examining specimens from India of *Conyza leucantha* (D.Don)
> Ludlow & P.H.Raven
> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-leucantha>
>  as
> per GBIF
> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=5398158>
> vis a vis those of *Conyza japonica* (Thunb.) Less. ex DC.
> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-japonica>
>  as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5398220>,
> may give some more clarity.
>
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 17:03, surajit koley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Sir ji, listed below are posted threads presently placed under the eFI
>> head - *Conyza leucantha* :-
>>
>>    1. Dinesh ji 2011 = identified 23-May-2021 by J.M. Garg =
>>    https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/n-iWYxF7ink/m/AmzS82q9lioJ
>>    2. Shivaprakash ji 2011 = do =
>>    https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/1vs1U6znHQc/m/TB8CyRk_cEcJ
>>    3. Gurcharan Sir 2013 = 29 May 2021 JM Garg =
>>    https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RDF2a2IeTk8/m/2dQM7o0P8BsJ
>>    4. Saroj ji 2017 = first ID ref FoI, Oct-2017, then FoC in
>>    Jul-2018 by JM Garg =
>>    https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VoysCHQulNI/m/u1LdMg8pBAAJ
>>    5. do = 23 May 2021 JM Garg =
>>    https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/c4jpRScFXec/m/WMg2rBOGAQAJ
>>    6. do 2018 = again 1st ref FoI then 2018 JM Garg =
>>    https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nhfdNPlKjgY/m/WQuRRBxBBwAJ
>>    7. Karuna ji 2020 = identified himself in 2020 =
>>    https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/8UYo6PVwbMk/m/RCiLaVTZAgAJ
>>
>> During identification of all the above threads several names of various
>> taxa appeared, like *Blumea* spp ..., another one is.*Conyza japonica*.
>>
>> If FoC is referred to, as an identification tool, as it has been referred
>> at least in the some of the above threads; the identifying points, between 
>> *C.
>> leucantha* and *C. japonica*, should be as follows :-
>>
>>    - ist checkpoint = stem viscid glandular or not = glandular equals to
>>    *leucantha*
>>    - 2nd checkpoint = cauline leaves subclasping or not = subclasping
>>    equals to *japonica*
>>
>> *As you know, I am not a professional like most of the members here, it
>> is quite possible that I may have many wrong notion, so please correct me
>> if I am wrong in any of the following observations (of the threads above)
>> :-*
>>
>>    - none of the above posts shows glandular stem, except mohe by Saroj
>>    ji, which I think is water droplets
>>    - cauline leaves are all stem clasping (subclasping) in all threads
>>    except the one by Shivaprakash ji, which is not clear to me
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>> With regards
>> surajit koley
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 13:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Surajit ji,
>>> May I ask what are the differences in the capitula here and those in FoI
>>> specimen -
>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/White-Flowered%20Fleabane.html?->
>>> To me it appears different from Conyza leucantha
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2017/10/14/conyza-leucantha/> as per images
>>> herein. Can not say about FOI.
>>>
>>> It appears to me (I may be wrong) there is same capitulum in
>>> http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm->
>>> yes, phyllaries appear close. But lateral branches are creating doubt as
>>> per I did not find such at *Conyza japonica* (Thunb.) Less. ex DC.
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-japonica>
>>>  and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5398220>
>>>
>>> What I don't understand is how it can be the same as in
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Zi04zKAoy-w!!!-> This
>>> appears to be *Conyza leucantha* (D.Don) Ludlow & P.H.Raven
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-leucantha>
>>>
>>> The posted plant appears to be Conyza
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/conyza/> and one possibility I
>>> feel is *Conyza sumatrensis*
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-sumatrensis>
>>>  (Retz.)
>>> E. Walker
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 at 08:21, [email protected] <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> May I ask what are the differences in the capitula here and those in
>>>> FoI specimen -
>>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/White-Flowered%20Fleabane.html
>>>> ?
>>>> It appears to me (I may be wrong) there is same capitulum in
>>>> http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm
>>>>
>>>> What I don't understand is how it can be same as in
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Zi04zKAoy-w!!!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
>>>> surajit
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 11 January 2018 at 13:39:25 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Appears close to images at *Blumea balsamifera* (L.) DC.
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/inuleae/blumea/blumea-balsamifera>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 January 2018 at 13:31, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks different from other images at *Blumea sinuata* (Lour.) Merr.
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/inuleae/blumea/blumea-lacinata>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: amit chauhan <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 21 January 2012 at 10:49
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:104839] uttarakhand uid 1 21012012
>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sending photos of some Blumea sp. Plant about 70 cm tall, aromatic,
>>>>>> flowers as seen in photos, annual in waste places. Collected from
>>>>>> Pantnagar, Uttarakhand (msl 250 mt)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr. Amit Chauhan
>>>>>> Junior Technical Assistant
>>>>>> Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre,
>>>>>> Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar, Uttarakhand
>>>>>> 263149
>>>>>> ph.05944 234445
>>>>>> mob.+919412161087 <+91%2094121%2061087>
>>>>>> mail: [email protected]
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>>>>>>
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