Sir ji, did you notice that in Flora of China, flowering season of - 1. *leucantha* is Sept. - Dec. 2. *japonica* is Mar. - Sept.
Would it be very different in India? Thank you With regards surajit koley On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 21:10, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, Sir, on the contrary, seeing GBIF specimens of *C. leucantha*, I > am more convinced on leaf-base character. Glands cannot be seen in > herbarium, so I would not comment on that. In herbarium specimen, where > most of the flowers are already producing achenes, I couldn't make out > phyllaries characters. > > In ray florets of *C. leucantha*, style(s) are pinkish (FoC) that can be > seen in FoI specimen, and in Australian specimen > <http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm> > ... which I couldn't see in eFI specimens, except one, which may have > those > <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RDF2a2IeTk8/m/2dQM7o0P8BsJ>, > but I could not find any gland there. > > I have more points, but I would overlook those, because I cannot make > measurements by looking at the pictures. > I didn't study *C. sumatrensis*, so I would skip commenting on it. > > *Please, do continue with the already established ids of all threads (of > C. leucantha) because this is something beyond my brain capacity*. > > Thank you > With regards > surajit koley > > > > On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 18:17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Surajit ji. >> I think examining specimens from India of *Conyza leucantha* (D.Don) >> Ludlow & P.H.Raven >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-leucantha> >> as >> per GBIF >> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=5398158> >> vis a vis those of *Conyza japonica* (Thunb.) Less. ex DC. >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-japonica> >> as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5398220>, >> may give some more clarity. >> >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 17:03, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sir ji, listed below are posted threads presently placed under the eFI >>> head - *Conyza leucantha* :- >>> >>> 1. Dinesh ji 2011 = identified 23-May-2021 by J.M. Garg = >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/n-iWYxF7ink/m/AmzS82q9lioJ >>> 2. Shivaprakash ji 2011 = do = >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/1vs1U6znHQc/m/TB8CyRk_cEcJ >>> 3. Gurcharan Sir 2013 = 29 May 2021 JM Garg = >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RDF2a2IeTk8/m/2dQM7o0P8BsJ >>> 4. Saroj ji 2017 = first ID ref FoI, Oct-2017, then FoC in >>> Jul-2018 by JM Garg = >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VoysCHQulNI/m/u1LdMg8pBAAJ >>> 5. do = 23 May 2021 JM Garg = >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/c4jpRScFXec/m/WMg2rBOGAQAJ >>> 6. do 2018 = again 1st ref FoI then 2018 JM Garg = >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nhfdNPlKjgY/m/WQuRRBxBBwAJ >>> 7. Karuna ji 2020 = identified himself in 2020 = >>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/8UYo6PVwbMk/m/RCiLaVTZAgAJ >>> >>> During identification of all the above threads several names of various >>> taxa appeared, like *Blumea* spp ..., another one is.*Conyza japonica*. >>> >>> If FoC is referred to, as an identification tool, as it has been >>> referred at least in the some of the above threads; the identifying points, >>> between *C. leucantha* and *C. japonica*, should be as follows :- >>> >>> - ist checkpoint = stem viscid glandular or not = glandular equals >>> to *leucantha* >>> - 2nd checkpoint = cauline leaves subclasping or not = subclasping >>> equals to *japonica* >>> >>> *As you know, I am not a professional like most of the members here, it >>> is quite possible that I may have many wrong notion, so please correct me >>> if I am wrong in any of the following observations (of the threads above) >>> :-* >>> >>> - none of the above posts shows glandular stem, except mohe by Saroj >>> ji, which I think is water droplets >>> - cauline leaves are all stem clasping (subclasping) in all threads >>> except the one by Shivaprakash ji, which is not clear to me >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> With regards >>> surajit koley >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 13:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>> May I ask what are the differences in the capitula here and those in >>>> FoI specimen - >>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/White-Flowered%20Fleabane.html?-> >>>> To me it appears different from Conyza leucantha >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2017/10/14/conyza-leucantha/> as per images >>>> herein. Can not say about FOI. >>>> >>>> It appears to me (I may be wrong) there is same capitulum in >>>> http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm-> >>>> yes, phyllaries appear close. But lateral branches are creating doubt as >>>> per I did not find such at *Conyza japonica* (Thunb.) Less. ex DC. >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-japonica> >>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5398220> >>>> >>>> What I don't understand is how it can be the same as in >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Zi04zKAoy-w!!!-> This >>>> appears to be *Conyza leucantha* (D.Don) Ludlow & P.H.Raven >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-leucantha> >>>> >>>> The posted plant appears to be Conyza >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/conyza/> and one possibility I >>>> feel is *Conyza sumatrensis* >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-sumatrensis> >>>> (Retz.) >>>> E. Walker >>>> >>>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 at 08:21, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> May I ask what are the differences in the capitula here and those in >>>>> FoI specimen - >>>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/White-Flowered%20Fleabane.html >>>>> ? >>>>> It appears to me (I may be wrong) there is same capitulum in >>>>> http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm >>>>> >>>>> What I don't understand is how it can be same as in >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Zi04zKAoy-w!!! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, 11 January 2018 at 13:39:25 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Appears close to images at *Blumea balsamifera* (L.) DC. >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/inuleae/blumea/blumea-balsamifera> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11 January 2018 at 13:31, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks different from other images at *Blumea sinuata* (Lour.) Merr. >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/inuleae/blumea/blumea-lacinata> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: amit chauhan <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 21 January 2012 at 10:49 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:104839] uttarakhand uid 1 21012012 >>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sending photos of some Blumea sp. Plant about 70 cm tall, aromatic, >>>>>>> flowers as seen in photos, annual in waste places. 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