My fault, I addressed the question wrong way. The context was Himalayan region. I will move to relevant threads when it comes to rest of India.
Never mind, when FoC says flowering season it takes account of elevation too, i think, that is why range is sometimes extended.; Thank you With regards surajit koley On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 22:45, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, in many cases elevation and flowering phenology in described in FoC > and Fon in eflora are different ! > Same may be in case of India ! > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 10:41 PM surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Sir ji, did you notice that in Flora of China, flowering season of - >> >> 1. *leucantha* is Sept. - Dec. >> 2. *japonica* is Mar. - Sept. >> >> Would it be very different in India? >> >> Thank you >> With regards >> surajit koley >> >> >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 21:10, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, Sir, on the contrary, seeing GBIF specimens of *C. leucantha*, I >>> am more convinced on leaf-base character. Glands cannot be seen in >>> herbarium, so I would not comment on that. In herbarium specimen, where >>> most of the flowers are already producing achenes, I couldn't make out >>> phyllaries characters. >>> >>> In ray florets of *C. leucantha*, style(s) are pinkish (FoC) that can >>> be seen in FoI specimen, and in Australian specimen >>> <http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm> >>> ... which I couldn't see in eFI specimens, except one, which may have >>> those >>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RDF2a2IeTk8/m/2dQM7o0P8BsJ>, >>> but I could not find any gland there. >>> >>> I have more points, but I would overlook those, because I cannot make >>> measurements by looking at the pictures. >>> I didn't study *C. sumatrensis*, so I would skip commenting on it. >>> >>> *Please, do continue with the already established ids of all threads (of >>> C. leucantha) because this is something beyond my brain capacity*. >>> >>> Thank you >>> With regards >>> surajit koley >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 18:17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>> I think examining specimens from India of *Conyza leucantha* (D.Don) >>>> Ludlow & P.H.Raven >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-leucantha> >>>> as >>>> per GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=5398158> >>>> vis a vis those of *Conyza japonica* (Thunb.) Less. ex DC. >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-japonica> >>>> as per GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5398220>, may give >>>> some more clarity. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 17:03, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sir ji, listed below are posted threads presently placed under the eFI >>>>> head - *Conyza leucantha* :- >>>>> >>>>> 1. Dinesh ji 2011 = identified 23-May-2021 by J.M. Garg = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/n-iWYxF7ink/m/AmzS82q9lioJ >>>>> 2. Shivaprakash ji 2011 = do = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/1vs1U6znHQc/m/TB8CyRk_cEcJ >>>>> 3. Gurcharan Sir 2013 = 29 May 2021 JM Garg = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RDF2a2IeTk8/m/2dQM7o0P8BsJ >>>>> 4. Saroj ji 2017 = first ID ref FoI, Oct-2017, then FoC in >>>>> Jul-2018 by JM Garg = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VoysCHQulNI/m/u1LdMg8pBAAJ >>>>> 5. do = 23 May 2021 JM Garg = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/c4jpRScFXec/m/WMg2rBOGAQAJ >>>>> 6. do 2018 = again 1st ref FoI then 2018 JM Garg = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nhfdNPlKjgY/m/WQuRRBxBBwAJ >>>>> 7. Karuna ji 2020 = identified himself in 2020 = >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/8UYo6PVwbMk/m/RCiLaVTZAgAJ >>>>> >>>>> During identification of all the above threads several names of >>>>> various taxa appeared, like *Blumea* spp ..., another one is.*Conyza >>>>> japonica*. >>>>> >>>>> If FoC is referred to, as an identification tool, as it has been >>>>> referred at least in the some of the above threads; the identifying >>>>> points, >>>>> between *C. leucantha* and *C. japonica*, should be as follows :- >>>>> >>>>> - ist checkpoint = stem viscid glandular or not = glandular equals >>>>> to *leucantha* >>>>> - 2nd checkpoint = cauline leaves subclasping or not = subclasping >>>>> equals to *japonica* >>>>> >>>>> *As you know, I am not a professional like most of the members here, >>>>> it is quite possible that I may have many wrong notion, so please correct >>>>> me if I am wrong in any of the following observations (of the threads >>>>> above) :-* >>>>> >>>>> - none of the above posts shows glandular stem, except mohe by >>>>> Saroj ji, which I think is water droplets >>>>> - cauline leaves are all stem clasping (subclasping) in all >>>>> threads except the one by Shivaprakash ji, which is not clear to me >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> With regards >>>>> surajit koley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 13:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>>>> May I ask what are the differences in the capitula here and those in >>>>>> FoI specimen - >>>>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/White-Flowered%20Fleabane.html?-> >>>>>> To me it appears different from Conyza leucantha >>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2017/10/14/conyza-leucantha/> as per >>>>>> images herein. Can not say about FOI. >>>>>> >>>>>> It appears to me (I may be wrong) there is same capitulum in >>>>>> http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm-> >>>>>> yes, phyllaries appear close. But lateral branches are creating doubt as >>>>>> per I did not find such at *Conyza japonica* (Thunb.) Less. ex DC. >>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-japonica> >>>>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5398220> >>>>>> >>>>>> What I don't understand is how it can be the same as in >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Zi04zKAoy-w!!!-> This >>>>>> appears to be *Conyza leucantha* (D.Don) Ludlow & P.H.Raven >>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-leucantha> >>>>>> >>>>>> The posted plant appears to be Conyza >>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/conyza/> and one possibility I >>>>>> feel is *Conyza sumatrensis* >>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-sumatrensis> >>>>>> (Retz.) >>>>>> E. Walker >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 at 08:21, [email protected] < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> May I ask what are the differences in the capitula here and those in >>>>>>> FoI specimen - >>>>>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/White-Flowered%20Fleabane.html >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> It appears to me (I may be wrong) there is same capitulum in >>>>>>> http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I don't understand is how it can be same as in >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Zi04zKAoy-w!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, 11 January 2018 at 13:39:25 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Appears close to images at *Blumea balsamifera* (L.) DC. >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/inuleae/blumea/blumea-balsamifera> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11 January 2018 at 13:31, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks different from other images at *Blumea sinuata* (Lour.) >>>>>>>>> Merr. >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/inuleae/blumea/blumea-lacinata> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: amit chauhan <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: 21 January 2012 at 10:49 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:104839] uttarakhand uid 1 21012012 >>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sending photos of some Blumea sp. 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