Yes, in many cases elevation and flowering phenology in described in FoC and Fon in eflora are different ! Same may be in case of India ! Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 10:41 PM surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sir ji, did you notice that in Flora of China, flowering season of - > > 1. *leucantha* is Sept. - Dec. > 2. *japonica* is Mar. - Sept. > > Would it be very different in India? > > Thank you > With regards > surajit koley > > > On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 21:10, surajit koley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Sorry, Sir, on the contrary, seeing GBIF specimens of *C. leucantha*, I >> am more convinced on leaf-base character. Glands cannot be seen in >> herbarium, so I would not comment on that. In herbarium specimen, where >> most of the flowers are already producing achenes, I couldn't make out >> phyllaries characters. >> >> In ray florets of *C. leucantha*, style(s) are pinkish (FoC) that can be >> seen in FoI specimen, and in Australian specimen >> <http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm> >> ... which I couldn't see in eFI specimens, except one, which may have >> those >> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RDF2a2IeTk8/m/2dQM7o0P8BsJ>, >> but I could not find any gland there. >> >> I have more points, but I would overlook those, because I cannot make >> measurements by looking at the pictures. >> I didn't study *C. sumatrensis*, so I would skip commenting on it. >> >> *Please, do continue with the already established ids of all threads (of >> C. leucantha) because this is something beyond my brain capacity*. >> >> Thank you >> With regards >> surajit koley >> >> >> >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 18:17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>> I think examining specimens from India of *Conyza leucantha* (D.Don) >>> Ludlow & P.H.Raven >>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-leucantha> >>> as >>> per GBIF >>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&taxon_key=5398158> >>> vis a vis those of *Conyza japonica* (Thunb.) Less. ex DC. >>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-japonica> >>> as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5398220>, >>> may give some more clarity. >>> >>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 17:03, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Sir ji, listed below are posted threads presently placed under the eFI >>>> head - *Conyza leucantha* :- >>>> >>>> 1. Dinesh ji 2011 = identified 23-May-2021 by J.M. Garg = >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/n-iWYxF7ink/m/AmzS82q9lioJ >>>> 2. Shivaprakash ji 2011 = do = >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/1vs1U6znHQc/m/TB8CyRk_cEcJ >>>> 3. Gurcharan Sir 2013 = 29 May 2021 JM Garg = >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/RDF2a2IeTk8/m/2dQM7o0P8BsJ >>>> 4. Saroj ji 2017 = first ID ref FoI, Oct-2017, then FoC in >>>> Jul-2018 by JM Garg = >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/VoysCHQulNI/m/u1LdMg8pBAAJ >>>> 5. do = 23 May 2021 JM Garg = >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/c4jpRScFXec/m/WMg2rBOGAQAJ >>>> 6. do 2018 = again 1st ref FoI then 2018 JM Garg = >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nhfdNPlKjgY/m/WQuRRBxBBwAJ >>>> 7. Karuna ji 2020 = identified himself in 2020 = >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/8UYo6PVwbMk/m/RCiLaVTZAgAJ >>>> >>>> During identification of all the above threads several names of various >>>> taxa appeared, like *Blumea* spp ..., another one is.*Conyza japonica* >>>> . >>>> >>>> If FoC is referred to, as an identification tool, as it has been >>>> referred at least in the some of the above threads; the identifying points, >>>> between *C. leucantha* and *C. japonica*, should be as follows :- >>>> >>>> - ist checkpoint = stem viscid glandular or not = glandular equals >>>> to *leucantha* >>>> - 2nd checkpoint = cauline leaves subclasping or not = subclasping >>>> equals to *japonica* >>>> >>>> *As you know, I am not a professional like most of the members here, it >>>> is quite possible that I may have many wrong notion, so please correct me >>>> if I am wrong in any of the following observations (of the threads above) >>>> :-* >>>> >>>> - none of the above posts shows glandular stem, except mohe by >>>> Saroj ji, which I think is water droplets >>>> - cauline leaves are all stem clasping (subclasping) in all threads >>>> except the one by Shivaprakash ji, which is not clear to me >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> With regards >>>> surajit koley >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 at 13:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>>> May I ask what are the differences in the capitula here and those in >>>>> FoI specimen - >>>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/White-Flowered%20Fleabane.html?-> >>>>> To me it appears different from Conyza leucantha >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2017/10/14/conyza-leucantha/> as per >>>>> images herein. Can not say about FOI. >>>>> >>>>> It appears to me (I may be wrong) there is same capitulum in >>>>> http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm-> >>>>> yes, phyllaries appear close. But lateral branches are creating doubt as >>>>> per I did not find such at *Conyza japonica* (Thunb.) Less. ex DC. >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-japonica> >>>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5398220> >>>>> >>>>> What I don't understand is how it can be the same as in >>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Zi04zKAoy-w!!!-> This >>>>> appears to be *Conyza leucantha* (D.Don) Ludlow & P.H.Raven >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-leucantha> >>>>> >>>>> The posted plant appears to be Conyza >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/19/conyza/> and one possibility I >>>>> feel is *Conyza sumatrensis* >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/astereae/conyza/conyza-sumatrensis> >>>>> (Retz.) >>>>> E. Walker >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 at 08:21, [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> May I ask what are the differences in the capitula here and those in >>>>>> FoI specimen - >>>>>> https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/White-Flowered%20Fleabane.html >>>>>> ? >>>>>> It appears to me (I may be wrong) there is same capitulum in >>>>>> http://www.canbr.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/RFK7/key/RFK7/Media/Html/entities/Eschenbachia_leucantha.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> What I don't understand is how it can be same as in >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Zi04zKAoy-w!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, 11 January 2018 at 13:39:25 UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Appears close to images at *Blumea balsamifera* (L.) DC. >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/inuleae/blumea/blumea-balsamifera> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11 January 2018 at 13:31, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks different from other images at *Blumea sinuata* (Lour.) Merr. >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/inuleae/blumea/blumea-lacinata> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: amit chauhan <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 21 January 2012 at 10:49 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:104839] uttarakhand uid 1 21012012 >>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sending photos of some Blumea sp. Plant about 70 cm tall, aromatic, >>>>>>>> flowers as seen in photos, annual in waste places. 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