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From: Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug, 2021, 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: [itpmods:15939] Fwd: What is the secret behind so many endemic
species in Kerala ?
To: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com>


Please also remember that this issue is not just in Indian plants. I see
more in Chinese plants actually !!!

On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 16:43, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Pankaj ji.
> I also think that is much more important.
> Revisionary studies with deep study of a genus with thousands of specimens
> and hundreds of original literatures/ publications, are much more
> important.
> It may certainly involve many many years of ones' productive life.
>
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 14:05, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the past 10 years in Hong Kong, I have merged around 35 new and old
>> species names into existing ones. Imagine, so much work to do. I already
>> have a new list for my next publication. Achievement of a taxonomist is not
>> just publishing new species but also correcting the existing ones.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 16:30, Dr E S Santhosh Kumar <
>> santhoshkuma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes GargJi, this is what I too felt nowadays 🤣
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 13:10 J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I somehow have the feeling that only one out of the 10 species
>>>> published currently, may stand the scrutiny of time and remain as a valid
>>>> species and not relegated as a synonym.
>>>> I do not know how others feel about it. Hard core taxonomists may give
>>>> a better estimate.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 13:03, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot, Santhosh ji.
>>>>> You have explained the things so well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 13:00, Dr E S Santhosh Kumar <
>>>>> essanthoshjntb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>> The question " What is the secret behind so many endemic species in
>>>>>> Kerala? " raised by Gargji has several answers. The first reason has been
>>>>>> very well explained by SanthanJi. Secondly, the flora of Kerala has been
>>>>>> well explored and documented and every part of the state has been
>>>>>> thoroughly explored and the important findings were published in time.
>>>>>> There are certain exceptions that  a few new gen botanists described the
>>>>>> already known species in many foreign journals as new species again. 
>>>>>> Sadly
>>>>>> in several cases the reviewers never known about it. In the recent 
>>>>>> climatic
>>>>>> change scenario, several ephemerals become annuals or biennials or even
>>>>>> perennials through several perennating mechanism. Such species often
>>>>>> mistakenly described new during recent times from Kerala. Genera such as
>>>>>> Impatiens, Sonerila, Strobilanthes etc are having several species grow
>>>>>> together in a biome often have a chance of exchange genes by  
>>>>>> interbreeding
>>>>>> between them. The F1 generation often having characters of both parents 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> also possessing certain unique characters of themselves. It is called
>>>>>> Nothospecies. Such characters never having a chance of continue over
>>>>>> generations. Some of the new gen botanists described such taxa as 
>>>>>> novelties
>>>>>> to science. There are several hidden agenda behind it. Certain exotic
>>>>>> species naturalized in Kerala years ago show several ecological traits 
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> described novelties recently.   Unnecessary addition of fictitious
>>>>>> novelties increased the number of endemics in Kerala. I have prepared a
>>>>>> list of  such 'paper species', but wont like to publish in such a public
>>>>>> forum. Let some experts in respective fields should tackle the issue.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 12:25 J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 11:25
>>>>>>> Subject: What is the secret behind so many endemic species in Kerala
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>>> While browsing through Flora of Peninsular India, I generally found
>>>>>>> that Kerala is having so many endmics (including narrow endemics with
>>>>>>> distribution shown in only one place or district) compared to
>>>>>>> other states like Tamil Nadu and Karnataka etc.
>>>>>>> What can be the reason behind it ?
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>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
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