Okay, so the two are different plants. That clears some of my confusion. Tabish ------------------------------------------- <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net The waterhole of flower lovers
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 3:29 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Images from Amba Ghat are of *Crotalaria* *epunctata* Dalzell as per Id > by ... in another thread: *Fabaceae (Faboideae) Fortnight :: Crotalaria > calycina :: n Western Ghats :: DVOCT31* > > On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 15:10, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, Tabish ji, >> The plant in the link ( >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5284992611/) is different. >> Plant we are talking about is at photograph of my plant >> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/1658761404/in/album-72157602559376733/> >> in >> FOI is *Crotalaria calycina.* >> >> >> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 15:08, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The pods in Dinesh's plants are without any calyx covering: >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5284992611/ >>> Pods of Crotalaria caylcina are supposed to be "oblong, black when ripe, >>> 2.5 x 0.8 cm, hairless, *equal to calyx*", according to An Excursion >>> Flora of Central Tamilnadu. So, it doesn't look like it will be C. calycina. >>> Tabish >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 1:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Three four hairy species are quite confusing and we have to follow the >>>> following keys from Flora of Peninsular India as below: >>>> 36 *Leaves elliptic lanceolate or oblong, more than twice as long as >>>> broad* >>>> 38 *Stipules prominent ovate lanceolate or lanceolate* >>>> 39 Stem with spreading hairs >>>> 41 Pods slightly exserted, 15-20 seeded .... *C.hirta* >>>> 41 Pods much exserted , 20-35 seeds >>>> 42 Leaves villous beneath; bracts often 3 lobed; pods subsessile >>>> ..... *C.mysorensis* >>>> 42 Leaves appressed pubescent beneath; bracts simple; pods >>>> shortly stalked .... *C.ferruginea* >>>> 38 *Stipules minute or 0.* >>>> 43 Pods as long as or shorter than calyx >>>> 44 Calyx to 0.8 cm long; upper two lobes connate except at tip; >>>> pods globose ... *C.linifolia* >>>> 44 Calyx to 2.5 cm long; lobes connate at base only; pods oblong >>>> .... *C. calycina* >>>> >>>> We have to re-examine all our observations, based on these keys. >>>> >>>> In view of these keys, I think Dinesh ji's posted plant may be >>>> *C.calycina * >>>> >>>> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 12:46, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I request members to compare Crotalaria mysorensis and Crotalaria >>>>> calcyna >>>>> images in Net. >>>>> Also : https://www.gbif.org/species/2941738. >>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/2941944 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:04 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Saroj, >>>>>> For me there is still no clarity on what Dinesh's plant is. >>>>>> Tabish >>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:19 AM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it ok Tabish ? >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31 AM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you Garg ji for clarifying and Saroj for pointing it out. >>>>>>>> Tabish >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:13 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FOI link >>>>>>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Silky-Haired%20Rattlepod.html> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Dinesh ji's images are kept as Crotalaria hirta >>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2014/01/21/crotalaria-hirta/> in efi. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 20:40, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Tabish, >>>>>>>>>> *Crotalaria calycina* Schrank in FoI looks a different sp. >>>>>>>>>> Please have a look . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CALTV20ciLT8Q2yj9Q%2BCcm3qjYmMJjX8OpXMYvROGdBQvEYSSJg%40mail.gmail.com.

