Okay, so the two are different plants. That clears some of my confusion.
  Tabish
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 3:29 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Images from Amba Ghat are of *Crotalaria* *epunctata* Dalzell as per Id
> by ... in another thread: *Fabaceae (Faboideae) Fortnight :: Crotalaria
> calycina :: n Western Ghats :: DVOCT31*
>
> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 15:10, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>> The plant in the link (
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5284992611/) is different.
>> Plant we are talking about is at photograph of my plant
>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/1658761404/in/album-72157602559376733/>
>>  in
>> FOI is *Crotalaria calycina.*
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 15:08, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The pods in Dinesh's plants are without any calyx covering:
>>>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5284992611/
>>> Pods of Crotalaria caylcina are supposed to be "oblong, black when ripe,
>>> 2.5 x 0.8 cm, hairless, *equal to calyx*", according to An Excursion
>>> Flora of Central Tamilnadu. So, it doesn't look like it will be C. calycina.
>>>    Tabish
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 1:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Three four hairy species are quite confusing and we have to follow the
>>>> following keys from Flora of Peninsular India as below:
>>>> 36 *Leaves elliptic lanceolate or oblong, more than twice as long as
>>>> broad*
>>>>   38 *Stipules prominent ovate lanceolate or lanceolate*
>>>>     39 Stem with spreading hairs
>>>>     41 Pods slightly exserted, 15-20 seeded   .... *C.hirta*
>>>>     41 Pods much exserted , 20-35 seeds
>>>>       42 Leaves villous beneath; bracts often 3 lobed; pods subsessile
>>>> ..... *C.mysorensis*
>>>>       42 Leaves appressed pubescent beneath; bracts simple; pods
>>>> shortly stalked .... *C.ferruginea*
>>>> 38 *Stipules minute or 0.*
>>>>   43 Pods as long as or shorter than calyx
>>>>     44 Calyx to 0.8 cm long; upper two lobes connate except at tip;
>>>> pods globose ... *C.linifolia*
>>>>     44 Calyx to 2.5 cm long; lobes connate at base only; pods oblong
>>>> .... *C. calycina*
>>>>
>>>> We have to re-examine all our observations, based on these keys.
>>>>
>>>> In view of these keys, I think Dinesh ji's posted plant may be
>>>> *C.calycina *
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 12:46, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I request members to compare Crotalaria mysorensis and Crotalaria
>>>>> calcyna
>>>>> images in Net.
>>>>> Also : https://www.gbif.org/species/2941738.
>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/2941944
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:04 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Saroj,
>>>>>>    For me there is still no clarity on what Dinesh's plant is.
>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:19 AM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it ok Tabish ?
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31 AM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Garg ji for clarifying and Saroj for pointing it out.
>>>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:13 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FOI link
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Silky-Haired%20Rattlepod.html>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> Dinesh ji's images are kept as Crotalaria hirta
>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2014/01/21/crotalaria-hirta/> in efi.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 20:40, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Tabish,
>>>>>>>>>> *Crotalaria calycina* Schrank in FoI looks a different sp.
>>>>>>>>>> Please have a look .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With regards,
>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>

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