I do not see such things in the other photograph. May be it is a new emerging branch. -- With regards, J. M. Garg
On Sun, 19 Sep, 2021, 6:33 pm Tabish, <[email protected]> wrote: > I was interpreting the marked objects as stipules. Maybe not. > Tabish > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 6:06 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Not C.mysorensis as no stipules are seen. >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J. M. Garg >> >> On Sun, 19 Sep, 2021, 5:37 pm Tabish, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> To me, Dinesh's plant as Sajjangad appears closer to *Crotalaria >>> mysorensis* >>> Tabish >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 5:16 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> In Dinesh's plant at Sajjangad, the calyx looks smaller than that in >>>> some other images of Crotalaria calycina >>>> >>>> http://d2seqvvyy3b8p2.cloudfront.net/f4cd8106cec1673fbd47d6a2770f6ae5.jpg >>>> https://biodiversity.bt/observation/show/59302 >>>> Tabish >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 3:13 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Tabish ji, >>>>> The plant in the link ( >>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5284992611/) is different. >>>>> Plant we are talking about is at photograph of my plant >>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/1658761404/in/album-72157602559376733/> >>>>> in >>>>> FOI is *Crotalaria calycina.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 15:08, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The pods in Dinesh's plants are without any calyx covering: >>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5284992611/ >>>>>> Pods of Crotalaria caylcina are supposed to be "oblong, black when >>>>>> ripe, 2.5 x 0.8 cm, hairless, *equal to calyx*", according to An >>>>>> Excursion Flora of Central Tamilnadu. So, it doesn't look like it will be >>>>>> C. calycina. >>>>>> Tabish >>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 1:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Three four hairy species are quite confusing and we have to follow >>>>>>> the following keys from Flora of Peninsular India as below: >>>>>>> 36 *Leaves elliptic lanceolate or oblong, more than twice as long >>>>>>> as broad* >>>>>>> 38 *Stipules prominent ovate lanceolate or lanceolate* >>>>>>> 39 Stem with spreading hairs >>>>>>> 41 Pods slightly exserted, 15-20 seeded .... *C.hirta* >>>>>>> 41 Pods much exserted , 20-35 seeds >>>>>>> 42 Leaves villous beneath; bracts often 3 lobed; pods >>>>>>> subsessile ..... *C.mysorensis* >>>>>>> 42 Leaves appressed pubescent beneath; bracts simple; pods >>>>>>> shortly stalked .... *C.ferruginea* >>>>>>> 38 *Stipules minute or 0.* >>>>>>> 43 Pods as long as or shorter than calyx >>>>>>> 44 Calyx to 0.8 cm long; upper two lobes connate except at tip; >>>>>>> pods globose ... *C.linifolia* >>>>>>> 44 Calyx to 2.5 cm long; lobes connate at base only; pods oblong >>>>>>> .... *C. calycina* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have to re-examine all our observations, based on these keys. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In view of these keys, I think Dinesh ji's posted plant may be >>>>>>> *C.calycina * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 12:46, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I request members to compare Crotalaria mysorensis and Crotalaria >>>>>>>> calcyna >>>>>>>> images in Net. >>>>>>>> Also : https://www.gbif.org/species/2941738. >>>>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/2941944 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:04 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Saroj, >>>>>>>>> For me there is still no clarity on what Dinesh's plant is. >>>>>>>>> Tabish >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:19 AM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is it ok Tabish ? >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31 AM Tabish <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Garg ji for clarifying and Saroj for pointing it out. >>>>>>>>>>> Tabish >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>>>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:13 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FOI link >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Silky-Haired%20Rattlepod.html> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh ji's images are kept as Crotalaria hirta >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2014/01/21/crotalaria-hirta/> in >>>>>>>>>>>> efi. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 20:40, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Tabish, >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Crotalaria calycina* Schrank in FoI looks a different sp. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please have a look . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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