In Dinesh's plant at Sajjangad, the calyx looks smaller than that in some
other images of Crotalaria calycina
  http://d2seqvvyy3b8p2.cloudfront.net/f4cd8106cec1673fbd47d6a2770f6ae5.jpg
  https://biodiversity.bt/observation/show/59302
  Tabish
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 3:13 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, Tabish ji,
> The plant in the link (
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5284992611/) is different.
> Plant we are talking about is at photograph of my plant
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/1658761404/in/album-72157602559376733/>
>  in
> FOI is *Crotalaria calycina.*
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 15:08, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The pods in Dinesh's plants are without any calyx covering:
>>   https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5284992611/
>> Pods of Crotalaria caylcina are supposed to be "oblong, black when ripe,
>> 2.5 x 0.8 cm, hairless, *equal to calyx*", according to An Excursion
>> Flora of Central Tamilnadu. So, it doesn't look like it will be C. calycina.
>>    Tabish
>> -------------------------------------------
>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 1:25 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Three four hairy species are quite confusing and we have to follow the
>>> following keys from Flora of Peninsular India as below:
>>> 36 *Leaves elliptic lanceolate or oblong, more than twice as long as
>>> broad*
>>>   38 *Stipules prominent ovate lanceolate or lanceolate*
>>>     39 Stem with spreading hairs
>>>     41 Pods slightly exserted, 15-20 seeded   .... *C.hirta*
>>>     41 Pods much exserted , 20-35 seeds
>>>       42 Leaves villous beneath; bracts often 3 lobed; pods subsessile
>>> ..... *C.mysorensis*
>>>       42 Leaves appressed pubescent beneath; bracts simple; pods
>>> shortly stalked .... *C.ferruginea*
>>> 38 *Stipules minute or 0.*
>>>   43 Pods as long as or shorter than calyx
>>>     44 Calyx to 0.8 cm long; upper two lobes connate except at tip; pods
>>> globose ... *C.linifolia*
>>>     44 Calyx to 2.5 cm long; lobes connate at base only; pods oblong
>>> .... *C. calycina*
>>>
>>> We have to re-examine all our observations, based on these keys.
>>>
>>> In view of these keys, I think Dinesh ji's posted plant may be
>>> *C.calycina *
>>>
>>> On Sun, 19 Sept 2021 at 12:46, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I request members to compare Crotalaria mysorensis and Crotalaria
>>>> calcyna
>>>> images in Net.
>>>> Also : https://www.gbif.org/species/2941738.
>>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/2941944
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 12:04 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Saroj,
>>>>>    For me there is still no clarity on what Dinesh's plant is.
>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:19 AM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it ok Tabish ?
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:31 AM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Garg ji for clarifying and Saroj for pointing it out.
>>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 10:13 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FOI link
>>>>>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Silky-Haired%20Rattlepod.html>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> Dinesh ji's images are kept as Crotalaria hirta
>>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2014/01/21/crotalaria-hirta/> in efi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 20:40, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Tabish,
>>>>>>>>> *Crotalaria calycina* Schrank in FoI looks a different sp. Please
>>>>>>>>> have a look .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>

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