Pl. see the detailed descriptions from BSI Flora of India:


 *Clematis ladakhiana *
<https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=2115&type=4>
Grey-Wilson

 *Clematis orientalis *
<https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=2119&type=4>L.






*Shrubs, climbing or straggling;* stems up to 2 - 3 m long, tinged with
purplish brown, slightly pubescent to glabrous. Leaves pinnate with 5 - 7
leaflets or more or less bipinnate; *leaflets narrow-lanceolate, entire or
with 1 - 2 lobes in the lower part, caudate-acute at apex, *(1.5 -) 2.7 - 9
x 0.4 - 2 cm, glabrous or subglabrous above and beneath, glaucous green.








Flowers axillary, yellow, often tinged or spotted with purplish brown or
reddish brown outside; peduncles 0.6 - 4.7 cm long; bracts similar to
leaves, generally with 3 - 5 leaflets; pedicels slender, 1.5 - 12 cm long,
sparsely pubescent to subglabrous. *Sepals narrow-lanceolate to elliptic,
acute to acuminate,* 15 - 25 x 4 - 10 mm, *glabrous to subglabrous outside,
pubescent along margins, densely pubescent inside.* Filaments 6 - 10 mm
long; anthers 2 - 3 mm long. Styles up to 4 cm long in fruit.

*Fl. *July - Sept.

*Large woody climbers or scramblers, *up to 8 m long; stems and branches
angular, whitish grey or tinged with purplish red, sparsely pilose. Leaves
pinnate, up to 7-foliolate or somewhat bipinnate and up to 9-foliolate;
petioles 2 - 10 cm long; *leaflets oblong-lanceolate, elliptic or ovate or
linear-oblong,* *simple or 2 - 3-lobed or deeply cleft, entire or sometimes
trilobed, *oblique, cuneate or rounded at base, *obtuse or subacute at
apex,* (1-) 2.5 - 6.5 x 0.5 - 3.5(-5) cm, glabrous or sparsely pilose,
greyish green or glaucous; petiolules 5 - 30 mm long, pilose.
Inflorescences axillary or terminal, elongated, 3-many- flowered, leafy
cymes; peduncles 0.5 - 9.5 cm long; pedicels slender, 0.5 - 5 cm long,
curved at apex, pilose, elongating in fruit; bracts oblong, elliptic or
ovate, 2 - 20 x 1 - 10 mm, entire, unifoliolate, pinnate or 2 - 3-lobed,
shortly petiolate, greyish green; flower buds ovoid, acute, dark red.
Flowers 3 - 5 cm across, pale yellow, greenish yellow or cream-coloured,
sometimes purplish brown inside, tinged with red-violet outside, often
mottled with purple. *Sepals 4, ovate, oblong or elliptic, acute or
subacute, *11 - 15 x 4 - 7.5 mm, *spreading, recurved later, silky villous
outside or on both surfaces.* Stamens 20 - 40; filaments slender, broad at
base, 4 - 8 mm long, yellow or dark purple; anthers 2.5 - 4 mm long.
Carpels many, 5 - 11 mm long, ellipsoid or rhomboid; style 4 - 10 mm long,
pubescent. Achenes rhomboid, laterally compound, ribbed at margins, 2 - 4 x
1 - 2 mm, dark brown, pubescent with 2.5 - 5 cm long hairy tails.

*Fl. & Fr. *July - Sept.







Going by this, I will go for *Clematis ladakhiana *Grey-Wilson.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 17:06, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here are the keys from BSI Flora of India
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=1429&type=3>:
> b. Inflorescence a panicle of 5 - several flowers; sepals acute or
> subacute at apex, pubescent along inner margins *14*
> 14a. Leaflets long acuminate; filaments 2 - 3 times as long as anthers
> 17. *Clematis ladakhiana
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=2115&type=4>*
> b. Leaflets obtuse or acute; filaments less than 2 times as long as anthers
> 22. *Clematis orientalis
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=2119&type=4>*
> What should we consider these leaflets: 'long acuminate' or 'obtuse or
> acute', in absence of anthers?
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at 21:09, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> OK Alka ji !
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 9:18 PM Alka Khare <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Saroj ji again
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Alka Khare
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:50:10 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Clematis orientalis *L. !
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:59 PM Alka Khare <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello friends
>>>>>
>>>>> This was on the banks of the Pangong tso.
>>>>> This looks different from the Clematis I had posted from Mulbekh
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/4k_1Jsu0SdM/m/2x0vk0uDCQAJ>,
>>>>> particularly the leaves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Requested to please ID.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and regards
>>>>> Alka Khare
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