Pl. see the detailed descriptions from BSI Flora of India:
*Clematis ladakhiana * <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=2115&type=4> Grey-Wilson *Clematis orientalis * <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=2119&type=4>L. *Shrubs, climbing or straggling;* stems up to 2 - 3 m long, tinged with purplish brown, slightly pubescent to glabrous. Leaves pinnate with 5 - 7 leaflets or more or less bipinnate; *leaflets narrow-lanceolate, entire or with 1 - 2 lobes in the lower part, caudate-acute at apex, *(1.5 -) 2.7 - 9 x 0.4 - 2 cm, glabrous or subglabrous above and beneath, glaucous green. Flowers axillary, yellow, often tinged or spotted with purplish brown or reddish brown outside; peduncles 0.6 - 4.7 cm long; bracts similar to leaves, generally with 3 - 5 leaflets; pedicels slender, 1.5 - 12 cm long, sparsely pubescent to subglabrous. *Sepals narrow-lanceolate to elliptic, acute to acuminate,* 15 - 25 x 4 - 10 mm, *glabrous to subglabrous outside, pubescent along margins, densely pubescent inside.* Filaments 6 - 10 mm long; anthers 2 - 3 mm long. Styles up to 4 cm long in fruit. *Fl. *July - Sept. *Large woody climbers or scramblers, *up to 8 m long; stems and branches angular, whitish grey or tinged with purplish red, sparsely pilose. Leaves pinnate, up to 7-foliolate or somewhat bipinnate and up to 9-foliolate; petioles 2 - 10 cm long; *leaflets oblong-lanceolate, elliptic or ovate or linear-oblong,* *simple or 2 - 3-lobed or deeply cleft, entire or sometimes trilobed, *oblique, cuneate or rounded at base, *obtuse or subacute at apex,* (1-) 2.5 - 6.5 x 0.5 - 3.5(-5) cm, glabrous or sparsely pilose, greyish green or glaucous; petiolules 5 - 30 mm long, pilose. Inflorescences axillary or terminal, elongated, 3-many- flowered, leafy cymes; peduncles 0.5 - 9.5 cm long; pedicels slender, 0.5 - 5 cm long, curved at apex, pilose, elongating in fruit; bracts oblong, elliptic or ovate, 2 - 20 x 1 - 10 mm, entire, unifoliolate, pinnate or 2 - 3-lobed, shortly petiolate, greyish green; flower buds ovoid, acute, dark red. Flowers 3 - 5 cm across, pale yellow, greenish yellow or cream-coloured, sometimes purplish brown inside, tinged with red-violet outside, often mottled with purple. *Sepals 4, ovate, oblong or elliptic, acute or subacute, *11 - 15 x 4 - 7.5 mm, *spreading, recurved later, silky villous outside or on both surfaces.* Stamens 20 - 40; filaments slender, broad at base, 4 - 8 mm long, yellow or dark purple; anthers 2.5 - 4 mm long. Carpels many, 5 - 11 mm long, ellipsoid or rhomboid; style 4 - 10 mm long, pubescent. Achenes rhomboid, laterally compound, ribbed at margins, 2 - 4 x 1 - 2 mm, dark brown, pubescent with 2.5 - 5 cm long hairy tails. *Fl. & Fr. *July - Sept. Going by this, I will go for *Clematis ladakhiana *Grey-Wilson. On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 17:06, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Here are the keys from BSI Flora of India > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=1429&type=3>: > b. Inflorescence a panicle of 5 - several flowers; sepals acute or > subacute at apex, pubescent along inner margins *14* > 14a. Leaflets long acuminate; filaments 2 - 3 times as long as anthers > 17. *Clematis ladakhiana > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=2115&type=4>* > b. Leaflets obtuse or acute; filaments less than 2 times as long as anthers > 22. *Clematis orientalis > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=2119&type=4>* > What should we consider these leaflets: 'long acuminate' or 'obtuse or > acute', in absence of anthers? > > > On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at 21:09, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> OK Alka ji ! >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 9:18 PM Alka Khare <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Saroj ji again >>> >>> Regards >>> Alka Khare >>> >>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:50:10 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju >>> wrote: >>> >>>> *Clematis orientalis *L. ! >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:59 PM Alka Khare <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello friends >>>>> >>>>> This was on the banks of the Pangong tso. >>>>> This looks different from the Clematis I had posted from Mulbekh >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/4k_1Jsu0SdM/m/2x0vk0uDCQAJ>, >>>>> particularly the leaves. >>>>> >>>>> Requested to please ID. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>> Alka Khare >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/36be97ac-f6a9-46d5-98c5-bf362ef76d0en%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/36be97ac-f6a9-46d5-98c5-bf362ef76d0en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b2836811-e937-4235-9a19-13066941b89cn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/b2836811-e937-4235-9a19-13066941b89cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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