To me both appear to be the same species. Maybe Singh ji can clarify further.
On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 12:37, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Garg ji and Shakir Ji > Thanks for comments > Sisymbrium loeselii is common in Kashmir and is called "Tsari Lashij" > meaning "sparrows broom" because of its dainty habit . > It is well known for its medicinal uses. > The photos posted by Shakir Ji appear to be of another plant called "Dand > Hak" meaning "Greens for Cattle" because of its robust habit. It is not > reputed to be medicinally important. I have also attached a photo of a > small "Dand Hak" plant. > In "Dand Hak" the leaves are much more deeply lobed than in S . loeselii. > Please see attached photos comparing the two side by side. > In "Dand Hak" the stem has denser and bigger hairs than in S. loeselii. > Please see attached photos comparing the two side by side. > Whether it is a variety of S.loeselii or a different species is beyond my > competence to opine on. > Perhaps Gurcharan Ji who has published papers from Botany Department of > Kashmir University in his early career could guide us in this matter. > Regards > taffazull > > On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:40:04 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] > wrote: > >> I too agree with S.loselli >> >> On Mon, 7 Nov, 2022, 2:36 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, appears close to images of *Sisymbrium loeselii* L. at >>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/30/sisymbrium-loeselii/ >>> Further keys can be checked in BSI Flora of India >>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=3025&type=3> >>> and Flora of Pakistan >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=130512>, as >>> both are quite close. >>> >>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 12:37, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A public domain photo attached (attribution:By ZooFari - Own work, CC >>>> BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6202627) >>>> shows both features i.e. linear leaves and young pods overtopping the >>>> flowers >>>> >>>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:36:13 AM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In Sisymbrium irio ( from a Wiki article) the upper leaves are linear >>>>> and younger pods overtop the flowers but this does not seem to be so from >>>>> the photographs. I wonder if this could be some other species. >>>>> Incidentally >>>>> this plant is called "Dand Hak" in Kashmiri literally meaning "Greens for >>>>> cattle" i.e. wild. >>>>> Regards >>>>> taffazull >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:49:16 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> *Sisymbrium irio *L. ! >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:31 PM Shakir Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Location Ganderbal kashmir >>>>>>> Date of collection:4-11-2022 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Nov, 2022, 2:15 pm Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Location, date, elevation, picture date ? >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:06 PM Shakir Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquHOkguxLDujPnXXwBBB6XOUrn%2B%2Btjx6wiBxQkDDeVuXbg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquHOkguxLDujPnXXwBBB6XOUrn%2B%2Btjx6wiBxQkDDeVuXbg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/683b553f-5a30-4110-8481-42d74f02f96an%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/683b553f-5a30-4110-8481-42d74f02f96an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "eFloraofIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a92eb140-2207-4053-aff3-8ba93f8bde2cn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a92eb140-2207-4053-aff3-8ba93f8bde2cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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