Yes it is S. loeselli On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 3:05:52 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:
> Maybe they are two varieties of same species but different enough to have > different local names > Thanks for clarifying > Regards > Taffazull > > On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > >> To me both appear to be the same species. >> Maybe Singh ji can clarify further. >> >> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 12:37, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Garg ji and Shakir Ji >>> Thanks for comments >>> Sisymbrium loeselii is common in Kashmir and is called "Tsari Lashij" >>> meaning "sparrows broom" because of its dainty habit . >>> It is well known for its medicinal uses. >>> The photos posted by Shakir Ji appear to be of another plant called >>> "Dand Hak" meaning "Greens for Cattle" because of its robust habit. It is >>> not reputed to be medicinally important. I have also attached a photo of a >>> small "Dand Hak" plant. >>> In "Dand Hak" the leaves are much more deeply lobed than in S . >>> loeselii. Please see attached photos comparing the two side by side. >>> In "Dand Hak" the stem has denser and bigger hairs than in S. loeselii. >>> Please see attached photos comparing the two side by side. >>> Whether it is a variety of S.loeselii or a different species is beyond >>> my competence to opine on. >>> Perhaps Gurcharan Ji who has published papers from Botany Department of >>> Kashmir University in his early career could guide us in this matter. >>> Regards >>> taffazull >>> >>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:40:04 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I too agree with S.loselli >>>> >>>> On Mon, 7 Nov, 2022, 2:36 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, appears close to images of *Sisymbrium loeselii* L. at >>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/30/sisymbrium-loeselii/ >>>>> Further keys can be checked in BSI Flora of India >>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=3025&type=3> >>>>> and Flora of Pakistan >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=130512>, >>>>> as both are quite close. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 12:37, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A public domain photo attached (attribution:By ZooFari - Own work, CC >>>>>> BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6202627) >>>>>> shows both features i.e. linear leaves and young pods overtopping the >>>>>> flowers >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:36:13 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In Sisymbrium irio ( from a Wiki article) the upper leaves are >>>>>>> linear and younger pods overtop the flowers but this does not seem to >>>>>>> be so >>>>>>> from the photographs. I wonder if this could be some other species. >>>>>>> Incidentally this plant is called "Dand Hak" in Kashmiri literally >>>>>>> meaning >>>>>>> "Greens for cattle" i.e. wild. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> taffazull >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:49:16 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar >>>>>>> Kasaju wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sisymbrium irio *L. ! >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:31 PM Shakir Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Location Ganderbal kashmir >>>>>>>>> Date of collection:4-11-2022 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Nov, 2022, 2:15 pm Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Location, date, elevation, picture date ? >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:06 PM Shakir Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquHOkguxLDujPnXXwBBB6XOUrn%2B%2Btjx6wiBxQkDDeVuXbg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquHOkguxLDujPnXXwBBB6XOUrn%2B%2Btjx6wiBxQkDDeVuXbg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/683b553f-5a30-4110-8481-42d74f02f96an%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/683b553f-5a30-4110-8481-42d74f02f96an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a92eb140-2207-4053-aff3-8ba93f8bde2cn%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a92eb140-2207-4053-aff3-8ba93f8bde2cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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