Maybe they are two varieties of same species but different enough to have different local names Thanks for clarifying Regards Taffazull
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote: > To me both appear to be the same species. > Maybe Singh ji can clarify further. > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 12:37, [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear Garg ji and Shakir Ji >> Thanks for comments >> Sisymbrium loeselii is common in Kashmir and is called "Tsari Lashij" >> meaning "sparrows broom" because of its dainty habit . >> It is well known for its medicinal uses. >> The photos posted by Shakir Ji appear to be of another plant called "Dand >> Hak" meaning "Greens for Cattle" because of its robust habit. It is not >> reputed to be medicinally important. I have also attached a photo of a >> small "Dand Hak" plant. >> In "Dand Hak" the leaves are much more deeply lobed than in S . loeselii. >> Please see attached photos comparing the two side by side. >> In "Dand Hak" the stem has denser and bigger hairs than in S. loeselii. >> Please see attached photos comparing the two side by side. >> Whether it is a variety of S.loeselii or a different species is beyond >> my competence to opine on. >> Perhaps Gurcharan Ji who has published papers from Botany Department of >> Kashmir University in his early career could guide us in this matter. >> Regards >> taffazull >> >> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 2:40:04 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> I too agree with S.loselli >>> >>> On Mon, 7 Nov, 2022, 2:36 pm J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, appears close to images of *Sisymbrium loeselii* L. at >>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/30/sisymbrium-loeselii/ >>>> Further keys can be checked in BSI Flora of India >>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=3025&type=3> >>>> and Flora of Pakistan >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=130512>, >>>> as both are quite close. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 12:37, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A public domain photo attached (attribution:By ZooFari - Own work, CC >>>>> BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6202627) >>>>> shows both features i.e. linear leaves and young pods overtopping the >>>>> flowers >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:36:13 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In Sisymbrium irio ( from a Wiki article) the upper leaves are linear >>>>>> and younger pods overtop the flowers but this does not seem to be so >>>>>> from >>>>>> the photographs. I wonder if this could be some other species. >>>>>> Incidentally >>>>>> this plant is called "Dand Hak" in Kashmiri literally meaning "Greens >>>>>> for >>>>>> cattle" i.e. wild. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:49:16 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *Sisymbrium irio *L. ! >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:31 PM Shakir Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Location Ganderbal kashmir >>>>>>>> Date of collection:4-11-2022 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Nov, 2022, 2:15 pm Saroj Kasaju, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Location, date, elevation, picture date ? >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:06 PM Shakir Ahmad <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquHOkguxLDujPnXXwBBB6XOUrn%2B%2Btjx6wiBxQkDDeVuXbg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAKSJquHOkguxLDujPnXXwBBB6XOUrn%2B%2Btjx6wiBxQkDDeVuXbg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/683b553f-5a30-4110-8481-42d74f02f96an%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/683b553f-5a30-4110-8481-42d74f02f96an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a92eb140-2207-4053-aff3-8ba93f8bde2cn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/a92eb140-2207-4053-aff3-8ba93f8bde2cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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