eFlora of China says: *Ardisia solanacea <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016807>* Roxburgh <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016807>: leaf blade elliptic or oblanceolate, *12-20 × 4-7 cm, papery, *conspicuously black punctate and punctate-lineate abaxially, not prominently punctate adaxially, base cuneate or narrowly decurrent on petiole, margin subrevolute, entire, apex acute; lateral veins ca. 20 on each side of midrib, raised on both surfaces, *marginal vein absent.* *Ardisia elliptica <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000072>* Thunberg <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000072>: leaf blade oblanceolate or obovate, *6-12(-16) × 3-5(-7) cm, subleathery,* dull and densely punctate abaxially, especially along margin, base cuneate, margin revolute, entire, apex obtuse or acute; lateral veins 12-34 on each side of midrib,* marginal vein present*
But it is really difficult to judge the size of leaves from a photograph. On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 22:30, Paradesi Anjaneyulu < [email protected]> wrote: > Very simple Garg Ji > In the vegetative condition itself, we will identify both, > Leaves up to 30 cm long matured ones, young leaves it self more than 10 > cm, thick, broadly oblong-ovate....A solanacea > Leaves up to 10 cm long mature ones, young 2-3cm, thin, ovate ......A > elliptica. > > When comparing both sp, Ardisia solanacea is double plant body then A > elliptica entirely. > > > > On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 13:17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, Paradesi ji, >> May I request you to let us know the differences between the two? >> >> On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 12:58, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Flora of China gives the following keys: >>> 38 (35) >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-35> >>> Petiole >>> *canaliculate*; flowers in* corymbs or racemes*. (39) >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-39> >>> + Petiole *marginate*; flowers in *umbels*. (40) >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-40> >>> >>> 39 (38) >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-38> >>> Leaf >>> blade elliptic or oblanceolate, conspicuously black punctate-lineate >>> abaxially, not prominently black punctate adaxially 10 Ardisia >>> solanacea >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016807> >>> + Leaf blade linear or narrowly lanceolate, black punctate abaxially, >>> prominently black punctate adaxially 11 Ardisia filiformis >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016768> >>> >>> 40 (38) >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-38> >>> Sepals >>> rugose basally; leaf blade margin revolute 7 Ardisia elliptica >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000072> >>> + Sepals smooth or verruculose basally; leaf blade margin flat. (41) >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-41> >>> From the above, it appears both are really close. >>> Flowers neither appear to be corymbs or raceme nor in umbel. >>> How to decide? >>> >>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 13:08, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes Paradesi Ji . Only GBIF says it is the syn. Other links says >>>> differently. >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 9:14 PM Paradesi Anjaneyulu < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No Saroj Ji >>>>> Both are accepted names, there is a huge difference between two ; both >>>>> species currently with me in live. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 at 20:13, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it is the syn ! >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 7:05 PM Kumar Prabhat Das < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ardisia solanacea >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 23 Apr, 2023, 6:03 pm Paradesi Anjaneyulu, < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ardisia solanacea >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 16:09, nadeem waqif <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> my bad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 16:05, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IT is Ok, however please verify the ID. >>>>>>>>>> Also keep efi and Mr. Garg in loop while replying . >>>>>>>>>> Select"reply all". >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>> From: nadeem waqif <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 4:18 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:446160] Tree For ID - Horsely Hills, >>>>>>>>>> Andhra Pradesh - NW-2023-APR01 >>>>>>>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you Sir. Wasn't expecting such a prompt reply! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 15:05, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Ardisia elliptica *Thunb. ! >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 3:13 PM nadeem waqif < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kindly identify this medium sized tree with pink flowers >>>>>>>>>>>> photographed in Horsely Hills, Andhra Pradesh in April 2023. >>>>>>>>>>>> Leaves about >>>>>>>>>>>> 10 to 15 cm in length. 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