I will share Nadeem JI I have two species access. If possible Can I know the person details please Name and number.
On Sun, May 21, 2023, 15:28 J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Good work, Nadeem ji, > I have kept observations of both (due to difficulty in segregating them as > well as Catalogue of life treats both as same > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annual-checklist/2019/details/species/id/470009e504506d3b76ca92312645a1c1/synonym/ff4c3050eab4ace918c2cde0ad7416b6>) > at > https://efloraofindia.com/2013/01/24/ardisia-elliptica/ > > On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 15:47, nadeem waqif <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Kindly note that the photographs were sent to me, i havent myself seen >> the live plant. Im assisting a young man who is making a native plant >> nursery to replant local species on the hill near his village in >> Madanapalle District, Andhra Pradesh. For some unknown reason, he is >> unwilling to directly engage with efloraofindia, tho i have showed how easy >> it is multiple number of times. >> >> i have asked him to send me better pictures with better detail and more >> information on the dimensions when he is able to visit the location again >> with the purpose of collecting fruit and seeds for his nursery. >> >> Im sorry that i cant help much in this endeavor to clarify Ardisia >> solanacea and A. elliptica at this point. >> >> May i request Mr/Dr. Paradesi Anjaneyulu to upload pictures of the two >> specimens he has access to? The efloraofindia database doesnt have any >> pictures expressly of A. solanacea and that gap could be thus filled. >> >> best regards >> >> nadeem waqif >> >> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 15:12, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> eFlora of China says: >>> *Ardisia solanacea >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016807>* >>> Roxburgh >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016807>: leaf >>> blade elliptic or oblanceolate, *12-20 × 4-7 cm, papery, *conspicuously >>> black punctate and punctate-lineate abaxially, not prominently punctate >>> adaxially, base cuneate or narrowly decurrent on petiole, margin >>> subrevolute, entire, apex acute; lateral veins ca. 20 on each side of >>> midrib, raised on both surfaces, *marginal vein absent.* >>> *Ardisia elliptica >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000072>* >>> Thunberg >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000072>: leaf >>> blade oblanceolate or obovate, *6-12(-16) × 3-5(-7) cm, subleathery,* >>> dull and densely punctate abaxially, especially along margin, base cuneate, >>> margin revolute, entire, apex obtuse or acute; lateral veins 12-34 on each >>> side of midrib,* marginal vein present* >>> >>> But it is really difficult to judge the size of leaves from a >>> photograph. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 11 May 2023 at 22:30, Paradesi Anjaneyulu < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Very simple Garg Ji >>>> In the vegetative condition itself, we will identify both, >>>> Leaves up to 30 cm long matured ones, young leaves it self more than >>>> 10 cm, thick, broadly oblong-ovate....A solanacea >>>> Leaves up to 10 cm long mature ones, young 2-3cm, thin, ovate ......A >>>> elliptica. >>>> >>>> When comparing both sp, Ardisia solanacea is double plant body then A >>>> elliptica entirely. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 13:17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Paradesi ji, >>>>> May I request you to let us know the differences between the two? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 12:58, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Flora of China gives the following keys: >>>>>> 38 (35) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-35> >>>>>> Petiole >>>>>> *canaliculate*; flowers in* corymbs or racemes*. (39) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-39> >>>>>> + Petiole *marginate*; flowers in *umbels*. (40) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-40> >>>>>> >>>>>> 39 (38) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-38> >>>>>> Leaf >>>>>> blade elliptic or oblanceolate, conspicuously black punctate-lineate >>>>>> abaxially, not prominently black punctate adaxially 10 Ardisia >>>>>> solanacea >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016807> >>>>>> + Leaf blade linear or narrowly lanceolate, black punctate >>>>>> abaxially, prominently black punctate adaxially 11 Ardisia >>>>>> filiformis >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200016768> >>>>>> >>>>>> 40 (38) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-38> >>>>>> Sepals >>>>>> rugose basally; leaf blade margin revolute 7 Ardisia elliptica >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000072> >>>>>> + Sepals smooth or verruculose basally; leaf blade margin flat. >>>>>> (41) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=102511#KEY-1-41> >>>>>> From the above, it appears both are really close. >>>>>> Flowers neither appear to be corymbs or raceme nor in umbel. >>>>>> How to decide? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 at 13:08, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes Paradesi Ji . Only GBIF says it is the syn. Other links says >>>>>>> differently. >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 9:14 PM Paradesi Anjaneyulu < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No Saroj Ji >>>>>>>> Both are accepted names, there is a huge difference between two ; >>>>>>>> both species currently with me in live. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 at 20:13, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, it is the syn ! >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 7:05 PM Kumar Prabhat Das < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ardisia solanacea >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 Apr, 2023, 6:03 pm Paradesi Anjaneyulu, < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ardisia solanacea >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 16:09, nadeem waqif < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> my bad >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 16:05, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IT is Ok, however please verify the ID. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also keep efi and Mr. Garg in loop while replying . >>>>>>>>>>>>> Select"reply all". >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nadeem waqif <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 4:18 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:446160] Tree For ID - Horsely >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hills, Andhra Pradesh - NW-2023-APR01 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Sir. Wasn't expecting such a prompt reply! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 15:05, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ardisia elliptica *Thunb. ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 3:13 PM nadeem waqif < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindly identify this medium sized tree with pink flowers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photographed in Horsely Hills, Andhra Pradesh in April 2023. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaves about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 to 15 cm in length. 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