The sepals appear to be fused up to the middle or so, hence indicative of *T.
**idukkiana *and/or *T. duchartrei.*

The arrangement of stamens *(3+3+3+1) *in your first batch of photographs
looks quite unusual.

The flowers can be "both reddish purple and yellowish in *T. duchartrei *and
*T. idukkiana*
<https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Shaiju-Pushpangadan/publication/287811107_floral_morphology/links/5679718c08aeaa48fa4ab35b/floral-morphology.pdf>
*.*" How does one distinguish between *T. **idukkiana *and *T. duchartrei*?

Hope Dr. Santhosh can help with this.

Best wishes, Viplav

On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 11:59, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Sam ji.
> Awaiting feedback from Santhosh ji
>
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> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 10:44
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:468261] 582 ID wild plant Thottea
> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju <
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> Dear Garg ji,
> I don't think so, also T. siliquosa opened flowers are downy it is
> matching to T. idukkiana.  And I am upload one more Thottea images shortly,
> with kind regards, Sam
>
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, 10:24 am J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think it should be *Thottea siliquosa* as per keys at
>> https://efloraofindia.com/2013/04/04/thottea/
>> Pl. confirm or otherwise.
>>
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 10:12, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>> *Thottea* *dalzellii* (Hook.f.) Karthik. & Moorthy
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for the ID suggestion, it is very close to T.
>>> idukkiana.
>>> With kind regards, Sam.
>>>
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>>> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 17:48
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:468261] 582 ID wild plant Thottea
>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please ID wild plant, kind regards, Sam.
>>>
>>> Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Kerala INDIA
>>>
>>> Altitude: 1500fsl
>>>
>>> Flower date: 07APR2022, 12.15pm
>>>
>>> Habitat: wild moisture evergreen misty sloppy canopied alpine
>>>
>>> Plant habit: shrub, erect branches, semi hard cylindrical stem 01.5
>>> inche base circumference, perennial
>>>
>>> Height: 04 feet
>>>
>>> Leaves: alternate elongated acute simple smooth flexible glossy
>>> aromatic size upto: 16×6cm
>>>
>>> Flower: axillary buds, 03 tepals, tomentose, diameter:12mm, purplish,
>>> non fragrant
>>>
>>> Fruit: beans lengthy trigonus green into brown size:08x0.6cm
>>>
>>> Seed: brown upto 10 pea shaped
>>> Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x
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