May be.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:54, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> As far as I can tell, the sepals do not appear completely free up to the
> base. We can get a better idea with a side-view of the flower in one of Sam
> ji's other photographs (marked & attached herewith).
>
> Best wishes, Viplav
>
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:40, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Viplav ji,
>> Pl. see the attached images for fusing of petals.
>>
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:32, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The sepals appear to be fused up to the middle or so, hence indicative
>>> of *T. **idukkiana *and/or *T. duchartrei.*
>>>
>>> The arrangement of stamens *(3+3+3+1) *in your first batch of
>>> photographs looks quite unusual.
>>>
>>> The flowers can be "both reddish purple and yellowish in *T. duchartrei
>>> *and *T. idukkiana*
>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Shaiju-Pushpangadan/publication/287811107_floral_morphology/links/5679718c08aeaa48fa4ab35b/floral-morphology.pdf>
>>> *.*" How does one distinguish between *T. **idukkiana *and *T.
>>> duchartrei*?
>>>
>>> Hope Dr. Santhosh can help with this.
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Viplav
>>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 11:59, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Sam ji.
>>>> Awaiting feedback from Santhosh ji
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 10:44
>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:468261] 582 ID wild plant Thottea
>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Garg ji,
>>>> I don't think so, also T. siliquosa opened flowers are downy it is
>>>> matching to T. idukkiana.  And I am upload one more Thottea images shortly,
>>>> with kind regards, Sam
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, 10:24 am J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it should be *Thottea siliquosa* as per keys at
>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2013/04/04/thottea/
>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 10:12, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>> *Thottea* *dalzellii* (Hook.f.) Karthik. & Moorthy
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much for the ID suggestion, it is very close to T.
>>>>>> idukkiana.
>>>>>> With kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 17:48
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:468261] 582 ID wild plant Thottea
>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please ID wild plant, kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Kerala INDIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Altitude: 1500fsl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flower date: 07APR2022, 12.15pm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Habitat: wild moisture evergreen misty sloppy canopied alpine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plant habit: shrub, erect branches, semi hard cylindrical stem 01.5
>>>>>> inche base circumference, perennial
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Height: 04 feet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leaves: alternate elongated acute simple smooth flexible glossy
>>>>>> aromatic size upto: 16×6cm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flower: axillary buds, 03 tepals, tomentose, diameter:12mm,
>>>>>> purplish, non fragrant
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fruit: beans lengthy trigonus green into brown size:08x0.6cm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seed: brown upto 10 pea shaped
>>>>>> Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x
>>>>>>
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