Dear All, It seems to be a Nothospecies? closely similar to Thottea idukkiana (= T.duchartrei) but not different from it. I have seen many such intermediate forms in T.idukkiana. For the time being, I go for T.idukkiana. Thanks and regards Santhosh
SANTHOSH .......................................................................... Dr. E S SANTHOSH KUMAR MSc, PhD, FIAT, FABSc, FLS *Member: IUCN SSC Western Ghats Plant Specialist Group* *Jawaharlal Nehru Tropical Botanic Garden and Research Institute (JNTBG&RI),* Palode, Karimancode P.O. Thiruvananthapuram-695562 Kerala, India Mobile: +91 8547825373 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Santhosh-Es www.drsanthosh.wikifoundry.com <http://www.drsanthosh.wetpaint.com> ORCID iD:-- https://orcid.org/0000-0003-2677-535X Alternate Email id: [email protected] *Every day’s life is a Gift. Let us use it productively* On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 14:33, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > May be. > > On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:54, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> As far as I can tell, the sepals do not appear completely free up to the >> base. We can get a better idea with a side-view of the flower in one of Sam >> ji's other photographs (marked & attached herewith). >> >> Best wishes, Viplav >> >> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:40, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Viplav ji, >>> Pl. see the attached images for fusing of petals. >>> >>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:32, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> The sepals appear to be fused up to the middle or so, hence indicative >>>> of *T. **idukkiana *and/or *T. duchartrei.* >>>> >>>> The arrangement of stamens *(3+3+3+1) *in your first batch of >>>> photographs looks quite unusual. >>>> >>>> The flowers can be "both reddish purple and yellowish in *T. >>>> duchartrei *and *T. idukkiana* >>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Shaiju-Pushpangadan/publication/287811107_floral_morphology/links/5679718c08aeaa48fa4ab35b/floral-morphology.pdf> >>>> *.*" How does one distinguish between *T. **idukkiana *and *T. >>>> duchartrei*? >>>> >>>> Hope Dr. Santhosh can help with this. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, Viplav >>>> >>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 11:59, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Sam ji. >>>>> Awaiting feedback from Santhosh ji >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 10:44 >>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:468261] 582 ID wild plant Thottea >>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>> I don't think so, also T. siliquosa opened flowers are downy it is >>>>> matching to T. idukkiana. And I am upload one more Thottea images >>>>> shortly, >>>>> with kind regards, Sam >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, 10:24 am J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it should be *Thottea siliquosa* as per keys at >>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2013/04/04/thottea/ >>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 10:12, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>> *Thottea* *dalzellii* (Hook.f.) Karthik. & Moorthy >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you very much for the ID suggestion, it is very close to T. >>>>>>> idukkiana. >>>>>>> With kind regards, Sam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 17:48 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:468261] 582 ID wild plant Thottea >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please ID wild plant, kind regards, Sam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Kerala INDIA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Altitude: 1500fsl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Flower date: 07APR2022, 12.15pm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Habitat: wild moisture evergreen misty sloppy canopied alpine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Plant habit: shrub, erect branches, semi hard cylindrical stem 01.5 >>>>>>> inche base circumference, perennial >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Height: 04 feet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leaves: alternate elongated acute simple smooth flexible glossy >>>>>>> aromatic size upto: 16×6cm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Flower: axillary buds, 03 tepals, tomentose, diameter:12mm, >>>>>>> purplish, non fragrant >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fruit: beans lengthy trigonus green into brown size:08x0.6cm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seed: brown upto 10 pea shaped >>>>>>> Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDQqYGjepaZZ6cPKB2p1LkX%2BVeaqpvt7N76TpjsgmDn6ng%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CADkXgDQqYGjepaZZ6cPKB2p1LkX%2BVeaqpvt7N76TpjsgmDn6ng%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFD1uoX_sVEpmi6KXG7LAo11RaqsOUjACgVmV4ko-UyUyQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFD1uoX_sVEpmi6KXG7LAo11RaqsOUjACgVmV4ko-UyUyQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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