Dear Garg ji, Saroj ji, Viplav ji, Santosh ji,

Thank you very much dear Saroj ji for the ID suggestion.
Thank you very much dear Garg ji for forwarded my request for
identification, suggestion and confirmation of ID.
Thank you very much dear Viplav ji for the ID suggestion and confirmation
of my plant with detailed description.
Thank you very much dear Santosh ji for the ID confirmation with details of
my plant.
With kind regards, Sam.

On Sun, 18 Aug 2024, 10:19 am J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Santhosh ji
>
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 22:25, Dr E S Santhosh Kumar <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> It seems to be a Nothospecies? closely similar to Thottea idukkiana (=
>> T.duchartrei) but not different from it. I have seen many such intermediate
>> forms in T.idukkiana. For the time being, I go for T.idukkiana.
>> Thanks and regards
>> Santhosh
>>
>> SANTHOSH
>> ..........................................................................
>> Dr. E S SANTHOSH KUMAR MSc, PhD, FIAT, FABSc, FLS
>> *Member: IUCN SSC Western Ghats Plant Specialist Group*
>> *Jawaharlal Nehru Tropical Botanic Garden and Research Institute
>> (JNTBG&RI),*
>> Palode, Karimancode P.O.
>> Thiruvananthapuram-695562
>> Kerala, India
>> Mobile: +91 8547825373
>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Santhosh-Es
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>>
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>>
>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 14:33, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> May be.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:54, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as I can tell, the sepals do not appear completely free up to
>>>> the base. We can get a better idea with a side-view of the flower in one of
>>>> Sam ji's other photographs (marked & attached herewith).
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, Viplav
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:40, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Viplav ji,
>>>>> Pl. see the attached images for fusing of petals.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 12:32, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sepals appear to be fused up to the middle or so, hence
>>>>>> indicative of *T. **idukkiana *and/or *T. duchartrei.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The arrangement of stamens *(3+3+3+1) *in your first batch of
>>>>>> photographs looks quite unusual.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The flowers can be "both reddish purple and yellowish in *T.
>>>>>> duchartrei *and *T. idukkiana*
>>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Shaiju-Pushpangadan/publication/287811107_floral_morphology/links/5679718c08aeaa48fa4ab35b/floral-morphology.pdf>
>>>>>> *.*" How does one distinguish between *T. **idukkiana *and *T.
>>>>>> duchartrei*?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope Dr. Santhosh can help with this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes, Viplav
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 11:59, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Sam ji.
>>>>>>> Awaiting feedback from Santhosh ji
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 10:44
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:468261] 582 ID wild plant Thottea
>>>>>>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, Saroj Kasaju <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Garg ji,
>>>>>>> I don't think so, also T. siliquosa opened flowers are downy it is
>>>>>>> matching to T. idukkiana.  And I am upload one more Thottea images 
>>>>>>> shortly,
>>>>>>> with kind regards, Sam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, 10:24 am J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it should be *Thottea siliquosa* as per keys at
>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2013/04/04/thottea/
>>>>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 10:12, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>>>> *Thottea* *dalzellii* (Hook.f.) Karthik. & Moorthy
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the ID suggestion, it is very close to T.
>>>>>>>>> idukkiana.
>>>>>>>>> With kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>> From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 17:48
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:468261] 582 ID wild plant Thottea
>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please ID wild plant, kind regards, Sam.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Kerala INDIA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Altitude: 1500fsl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Flower date: 07APR2022, 12.15pm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Habitat: wild moisture evergreen misty sloppy canopied alpine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Plant habit: shrub, erect branches, semi hard cylindrical stem
>>>>>>>>> 01.5 inche base circumference, perennial
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Height: 04 feet
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leaves: alternate elongated acute simple smooth flexible glossy
>>>>>>>>> aromatic size upto: 16×6cm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Flower: axillary buds, 03 tepals, tomentose, diameter:12mm,
>>>>>>>>> purplish, non fragrant
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fruit: beans lengthy trigonus green into brown size:08x0.6cm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seed: brown upto 10 pea shaped
>>>>>>>>> Camera: CANON EOS1500D +FL10x
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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> J.M.Garg
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