Seems to be close but Leh is 3500 m asl but Srinagar (Rawathpora) is just about 1600 m asl. I think my post would be the first record from this height. Surprising that local botanists have missed this not uncommon herb. Regards Taffazull
On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 10:12:11 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote: > Please cross verify with the image from Flora of Ladakh. > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 6:59 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> A possibility that comes to my mind is that it might be an invasive alien >> species that has not yet got noticed by local botanists. >> Regards >> Taffazull >> >> On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 3:26:34 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Garg ji, >>> It is interesting that such a common weed seems to have gone unnoticed >>> in Srinagar. >>> I have too little knowledge of taxonomy but would request the opinion of >>> Gurcharan ji as he or his contacts in Botany Dept of Kashmir University >>> must surely have studied this common herb. >>> Regards >>> Taffazull >>> >>> On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 3:04:26 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji. >>>> So what do you think finally w.r.t. it's Id? >>>> >>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 at 16:07, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> With time the stipules? have become divided and look like tiny leaves. >>>>> See Photo taken on August 15 >>>>> Regards >>>>> Taffazull >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 3:52:14 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> >>>>>> Please see other possibilities, altitude seems lower for this species >>>>>> (2500 to 4000 m)- from Singh ji >>>>>> Thanks for pointing out. >>>>>> I have identified it because it was so identified by Kasuju ji and >>>>>> Miroslav ji in my previous post link copied below >>>>>> Kindly help ID this Asteraceae member from Srinagar (google.com) >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Y8RcfEMLQHM/m/y_cWatuLAwAJ> >>>>>> . >>>>>> You can see the details of flowers and inflorescence and leaves etc >>>>>> on that post >>>>>> I know too little taxonomy to comment on the same but if it is >>>>>> something else it would be very interesting. >>>>>> If it is *tournefortiana *it would still be interesting because of >>>>>> its being reported from a lower altitude than where it normally grows. >>>>>> I reposted a new photo because at that time Tabish ji had requested a >>>>>> better photo but at that time I did not have any. >>>>>> Again thanks for your very interesting observation. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> I noticed three pairs of linear 2mm long stipule-like structures on >>>>>> the bases of the petioles arising from the adaxial side ( See Photo). >>>>>> One >>>>>> of them seems to be further divided into two. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would request opinion of experts to confirm if they are stipules and >>>>>> would they be helpful in confirming its ID as *A.tournefortiana* - >>>>>> from Taffazul ji >>>>>> The illustration in Flora of China does not show the stipule like >>>>>> structures, >>>>>> Illustration: Artemisia tournefortiana (efloras.org) >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=120521&flora_id=2> >>>>>> Could it be some other species as suggested by Gurcharan ji? >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> Photo of a leaf showing stipule like structures at base of petiole >>>>>> not seen in FOC illustration >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji. >>>>>> Pl. check keys in BSI Flora of India >>>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=4526&type=3> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Also see descriptions in FBI >>>>>> <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/artemisia-tournefortiana-rchb-1> >>>>>> and BSI Flora of India >>>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5066&type=4> >>>>>> (description >>>>>> seems to be sketchy and very few details)- from me. >>>>>> Thanks for info >>>>>> BSI mentions stem as white to dull purple but here it is light green >>>>>> with dark green streaks (see Photo).It also gives the altitude as >>>>>> 2500-4000m (Srinagar alt is 1600meters asl) as was also pointed out by >>>>>> Gurcharan ji. >>>>>> Makes no mention of tiny stipule like structures at base of petiole. >>>>>> Will try to post photos of phyllaries when it flowers. >>>>>> Request opinion of experts >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 18:22 >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:466447] Artemisia tournefortiana From Srinagar >>>>>> To: eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>> Am posting three photos of* Artemesia tournefortiana* Rchb.; growing >>>>>> on the side of a path in Rawathpora Srinagar. >>>>>> All photos under CCLicence (Attribution only needed.) >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/72cf7a87-921c-4b42-9400-f40a93c3c34cn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/72cf7a87-921c-4b42-9400-f40a93c3c34cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ffede2e4-2282-40a3-9821-b0f3709d6316n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ffede2e4-2282-40a3-9821-b0f3709d6316n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/78109f5e-bb7b-407d-a318-d1487d578624n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/78109f5e-bb7b-407d-a318-d1487d578624n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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