Dear Saroj ji, Thanks for the references and guidance All I was curious about was to know if it has been reported from Srinagar or other lowlands of the valley before or is it the first record. Perhaps Gurcharan ji could enlighten us in this regard. Sincere regards Taffazull
On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 12:48:02 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote: > Plants of Indian Himalayan Region, BSI > > Artemisia tournefortiana Rchb., Iconogr. Bot. Exot. 1: 6. Pl. 5. 1824. > Distribution: Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir; upto 3900 m. > > That means the highest elevation is 3900m., lower elevation can be any. > > > https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D2%26taxon_id%3D200023358&ved=2ahUKEwjvmtGmjJKIAxVXR2wGHbMJNDsQFnoECCsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw051MBiliKtJ0I8Mx25qQgC > > Screenshot from Flora of India Vol. 12 > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 11:15 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Seems to be close but Leh is 3500 m asl but Srinagar (Rawathpora) is just >> about 1600 m asl. >> I think my post would be the first record from this height. >> Surprising that local botanists have missed this not uncommon herb. >> Regards >> Taffazull >> >> On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 10:12:11 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >> >>> Please cross verify with the image from Flora of Ladakh. >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 6:59 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A possibility that comes to my mind is that it might be an invasive >>>> alien species that has not yet got noticed by local botanists. >>>> Regards >>>> Taffazull >>>> >>>> On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 3:26:34 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>> It is interesting that such a common weed seems to have gone unnoticed >>>>> in Srinagar. >>>>> I have too little knowledge of taxonomy but would request the opinion >>>>> of Gurcharan ji as he or his contacts in Botany Dept of Kashmir >>>>> University >>>>> must surely have studied this common herb. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Taffazull >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 3:04:26 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji. >>>>>> So what do you think finally w.r.t. it's Id? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 at 16:07, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> With time the stipules? have become divided and look like tiny >>>>>>> leaves. >>>>>>> See Photo taken on August 15 >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 3:52:14 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please see other possibilities, altitude seems lower for this >>>>>>>> species (2500 to 4000 m)- from Singh ji >>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing out. >>>>>>>> I have identified it because it was so identified by Kasuju ji and >>>>>>>> Miroslav ji in my previous post link copied below >>>>>>>> Kindly help ID this Asteraceae member from Srinagar (google.com) >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Y8RcfEMLQHM/m/y_cWatuLAwAJ> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> You can see the details of flowers and inflorescence and leaves etc >>>>>>>> on that post >>>>>>>> I know too little taxonomy to comment on the same but if it is >>>>>>>> something else it would be very interesting. >>>>>>>> If it is *tournefortiana *it would still be interesting because >>>>>>>> of its being reported from a lower altitude than where it normally >>>>>>>> grows. >>>>>>>> I reposted a new photo because at that time Tabish ji had requested >>>>>>>> a better photo but at that time I did not have any. >>>>>>>> Again thanks for your very interesting observation. >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>> I noticed three pairs of linear 2mm long stipule-like structures on >>>>>>>> the bases of the petioles arising from the adaxial side ( See Photo). >>>>>>>> One >>>>>>>> of them seems to be further divided into two. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would request opinion of experts to confirm if they are stipules >>>>>>>> and would they be helpful in confirming its ID as >>>>>>>> *A.tournefortiana* - from Taffazul ji >>>>>>>> The illustration in Flora of China does not show the stipule like >>>>>>>> structures, >>>>>>>> Illustration: Artemisia tournefortiana (efloras.org) >>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=120521&flora_id=2> >>>>>>>> Could it be some other species as suggested by Gurcharan ji? >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>> Photo of a leaf showing stipule like structures at base of petiole >>>>>>>> not seen in FOC illustration >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji. >>>>>>>> Pl. check keys in BSI Flora of India >>>>>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=4526&type=3> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also see descriptions in FBI >>>>>>>> <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/artemisia-tournefortiana-rchb-1> >>>>>>>> and BSI Flora of India >>>>>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5066&type=4> >>>>>>>> (description >>>>>>>> seems to be sketchy and very few details)- from me. >>>>>>>> Thanks for info >>>>>>>> BSI mentions stem as white to dull purple but here it is light >>>>>>>> green with dark green streaks (see Photo).It also gives the altitude >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> 2500-4000m (Srinagar alt is 1600meters asl) as was also pointed out by >>>>>>>> Gurcharan ji. >>>>>>>> Makes no mention of tiny stipule like structures at base of petiole. >>>>>>>> Will try to post photos of phyllaries when it flowers. >>>>>>>> Request opinion of experts >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 18:22 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:466447] Artemisia tournefortiana From >>>>>>>> Srinagar >>>>>>>> To: eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>> Am posting three photos of* Artemesia tournefortiana* Rchb.; >>>>>>>> growing on the side of a path in Rawathpora Srinagar. >>>>>>>> All photos under CCLicence (Attribution only needed.) >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/72cf7a87-921c-4b42-9400-f40a93c3c34cn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/72cf7a87-921c-4b42-9400-f40a93c3c34cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ffede2e4-2282-40a3-9821-b0f3709d6316n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/ffede2e4-2282-40a3-9821-b0f3709d6316n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/78109f5e-bb7b-407d-a318-d1487d578624n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/78109f5e-bb7b-407d-a318-d1487d578624n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "eFloraofIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d093c7ce-1dcc-4329-954a-c94d03398c85n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/d093c7ce-1dcc-4329-954a-c94d03398c85n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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