Different databases and books give different elevation ranges. So, I guess we have to consider the lowest and highest as the possibilities. BSI book : Plants of Indian Himalayan Region, BSI says :
Artemisia tournefortiana Rchb., Iconogr. Bot. Exot. 1: 6. Pl. 5. 1824. Distribution: Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir; upto 3900 m. That means the range should be sea level to 3900m. But I have no idea of its recordings. Thank you. Saroj Kasaju On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 4:34 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Saroj ji, > I am a bit confused. > In your screen shot Distribution (copy pasted below) is given as between > 2500-4000m: > > *Distrib*. IndIa: W. Himalayas. on sandy soil between 2500-4000m. Jammu & > Kashmir > and HimachaI Pradesh, > > .Pakistan . W. Tibet. Afghanistan and C. Asia. > > Does it mean that in India it has not been reported below 2500m.? > > To my mind that is the implication. > > Regards > > Taffazull > > > > > > > On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 9:31:04 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] > wrote: > >> Dear Saroj ji, >> Thanks for the references and guidance >> All I was curious about was to know if it has been reported from Srinagar >> or other lowlands of the valley before or is it the first record. >> Perhaps Gurcharan ji could enlighten us in this regard. >> Sincere regards >> Taffazull >> >> >> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 12:48:02 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >> >>> Plants of Indian Himalayan Region, BSI >>> >>> Artemisia tournefortiana Rchb., Iconogr. Bot. Exot. 1: 6. Pl. 5. 1824. >>> Distribution: Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir; upto 3900 m. >>> >>> That means the highest elevation is 3900m., lower elevation can be any. >>> >>> >>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D2%26taxon_id%3D200023358&ved=2ahUKEwjvmtGmjJKIAxVXR2wGHbMJNDsQFnoECCsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw051MBiliKtJ0I8Mx25qQgC >>> >>> Screenshot from Flora of India Vol. 12 >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 11:15 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Seems to be close but Leh is 3500 m asl but Srinagar (Rawathpora) is >>>> just about 1600 m asl. >>>> I think my post would be the first record from this height. >>>> Surprising that local botanists have missed this not uncommon herb. >>>> Regards >>>> Taffazull >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 10:12:11 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please cross verify with the image from Flora of Ladakh. >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 6:59 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A possibility that comes to my mind is that it might be an invasive >>>>>> alien species that has not yet got noticed by local botanists. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 3:26:34 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>>>> It is interesting that such a common weed seems to have gone >>>>>>> unnoticed in Srinagar. >>>>>>> I have too little knowledge of taxonomy but would request the >>>>>>> opinion of Gurcharan ji as he or his contacts in Botany Dept of Kashmir >>>>>>> University must surely have studied this common herb. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 3:04:26 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji. >>>>>>>> So what do you think finally w.r.t. it's Id? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 at 16:07, [email protected] < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With time the stipules? have become divided and look like tiny >>>>>>>>> leaves. >>>>>>>>> See Photo taken on August 15 >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 3:52:14 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please see other possibilities, altitude seems lower for this >>>>>>>>>> species (2500 to 4000 m)- from Singh ji >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing out. >>>>>>>>>> I have identified it because it was so identified by Kasuju ji >>>>>>>>>> and Miroslav ji in my previous post link copied below >>>>>>>>>> Kindly help ID this Asteraceae member from Srinagar (google.com) >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Y8RcfEMLQHM/m/y_cWatuLAwAJ> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> You can see the details of flowers and inflorescence and leaves >>>>>>>>>> etc on that post >>>>>>>>>> I know too little taxonomy to comment on the same but if it is >>>>>>>>>> something else it would be very interesting. >>>>>>>>>> If it is *tournefortiana *it would still be interesting because >>>>>>>>>> of its being reported from a lower altitude than where it normally >>>>>>>>>> grows. >>>>>>>>>> I reposted a new photo because at that time Tabish ji had >>>>>>>>>> requested a better photo but at that time I did not have any. >>>>>>>>>> Again thanks for your very interesting observation. >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>> I noticed three pairs of linear 2mm long stipule-like structures >>>>>>>>>> on the bases of the petioles arising from the adaxial side ( See >>>>>>>>>> Photo). >>>>>>>>>> One of them seems to be further divided into two. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would request opinion of experts to confirm if they are stipules >>>>>>>>>> and would they be helpful in confirming its ID as >>>>>>>>>> *A.tournefortiana* - from Taffazul ji >>>>>>>>>> The illustration in Flora of China does not show the stipule like >>>>>>>>>> structures, >>>>>>>>>> Illustration: Artemisia tournefortiana (efloras.org) >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=120521&flora_id=2> >>>>>>>>>> Could it be some other species as suggested by Gurcharan ji? >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>> Photo of a leaf showing stipule like structures at base of >>>>>>>>>> petiole not seen in FOC illustration >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji. >>>>>>>>>> Pl. check keys in BSI Flora of India >>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=4526&type=3> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also see descriptions in FBI >>>>>>>>>> <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/artemisia-tournefortiana-rchb-1> >>>>>>>>>> and BSI Flora of India >>>>>>>>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5066&type=4> >>>>>>>>>> (description >>>>>>>>>> seems to be sketchy and very few details)- from me. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for info >>>>>>>>>> BSI mentions stem as white to dull purple but here it is light >>>>>>>>>> green with dark green streaks (see Photo).It also gives the altitude >>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> 2500-4000m (Srinagar alt is 1600meters asl) as was also pointed out >>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>> Gurcharan ji. >>>>>>>>>> Makes no mention of tiny stipule like structures at base of >>>>>>>>>> petiole. >>>>>>>>>> Will try to post photos of phyllaries when it flowers. >>>>>>>>>> Request opinion of experts >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Taffazull >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 18:22 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:466447] Artemisia tournefortiana From >>>>>>>>>> Srinagar >>>>>>>>>> To: eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>> Am posting three photos of* Artemesia tournefortiana* Rchb.; 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