"The first two photos showing flowers belong to observation dtd. July 11, 2010, ...will revise the ID to S. amplexicaulis."- *Difficult to say without fruits. *Only one observation so far in efi as per https://efloraofindia.com/2016/02/17/solena-amplexicaulis/ (Also it is found in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Kerala as per https://phytokeys.pensoft.net/article/1454/)
On Sat, 14 Sept 2024 at 16:57, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Garg ji for attaching the publication; thanks Tabish for > resurfacing the old post. > > The first two photos showing flowers belong to observation dtd. July 11, > 2010 <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/81422504>, ...will revise > the ID to *S. amplexicaulis*. > > ... while the one showing the ridged fruit belongs to another,observation > of July 14, 2012 <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82402619> > which by now has been validated as *Solena heterophylla* by Prof. Dr. > Hanno Schaefer and Radha Veach. Going through the publication attached by > Garg ji does tell me that it ought to be *Solena umbellata*. > > As of now, I do have one validated observation of *Solena umbellata* > <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/220455107>. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 3:48 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Going by the fruit shape it should be >> https://efloraofindia.com/2016/07/26/solena-umbellata/ >> Fruit shape is different in >> https://efloraofindia.com/2016/02/17/solena-amplexicaulis/ >> Pl. see attached publication for fruit shapes. >> >> On Sat, 7 Sept 2024 at 11:57, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Garg ji, >>> Coming back to this old thread, I had made the correction back then. >>> However, just wanted to point out that the abstract of the paper you >>> pointed out, says: >>> "The genus Solena Lour. is redefined, and its 3 species and 1 >>> subspecies are keyed out and described: >>> S. amplexicaulis occurs in S India, S. heterophylla, with 2 subspecies >>> is widespread, but does not >>> occur in S India ..." >>> Based on this, Dinesh's images from Maharashtra >>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4789737927>, which are also >>> on FOI >>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Creeping%20Cucumber.html>, >>> should belong to *Solena amplexicaulis*. >>> Tabish >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: J.M. Garg <Unknown> >>> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:19:38 PM UTC+5:30 >>> Subject: Images of Solena amplexicaulis in FOI should be of Solena >>> heterophylla Lour. >>> To: Flowers of India <Unknown> >>> Cc: efloraofindia <Unknown>, Dinesh Valke <Unknown>, Thingnam Girija >>> <Unknown>, Tabish Qureshi <Unknown> >>> >>> >>> Hi, Tabish ji, >>> Images of Solena amplexicaulis in FOI >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Creeping%20Cucumber.html> >>> should be of Solena heterophylla Lour. >>> as per *Solena heterophylla* Lour. >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/solena/solena-heterophylla-1> >>> & >>> as per comparative images at Solena >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/solena> >>> in >>> efi based on the following: >>> REVIEW OF THE GENUS SOLENA (CUCURBITACEAE) >>> <http://repository.naturalis.nl/document/566363>- W.J.J.O. DE WILDE & >>> B.E.E. DUYFJES- BLUMEA 49: 69–81 (2004) >>> The Cucurbitaceae of India >>> <http://www.umsl.edu/~renners/Renner_Pandey_Indian_cucs_2013.pdf>: >>> Accepted names, synonyms, geographic distribution, and information on >>> images and DNA sequences by Susanne S. Renner, Arun K. Pandey. 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