Thanks Dinesh and Garg ji,
   I updated the fruit image on FOI:
  https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Creeping%20Cucumber.html
PS: You may still see the old image from your browser cache unless it is
refreshed.
  Tabish
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On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 5:06 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> "The first two photos showing flowers belong to observation dtd. July 11,
> 2010, ...will revise the ID to S. amplexicaulis."- *Difficult to say
> without fruits. *Only one observation so far in efi as per
> https://efloraofindia.com/2016/02/17/solena-amplexicaulis/ (Also it is
> found in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Kerala as per
> https://phytokeys.pensoft.net/article/1454/)
>
> On Sat, 14 Sept 2024 at 16:57, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Garg ji for attaching the publication; thanks Tabish for
>> resurfacing the old post.
>>
>> The first two photos showing flowers belong to observation dtd. July 11,
>> 2010 <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/81422504>, ...will revise
>> the ID to *S. amplexicaulis*.
>>
>> ... while the one showing the ridged fruit belongs to another,observation
>> of July 14, 2012 <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82402619>
>> which by now has been validated as *Solena heterophylla* by Prof. Dr.
>> Hanno Schaefer and Radha Veach. Going through the publication attached by
>> Garg ji does tell me that it ought to be *Solena umbellata*.
>>
>> As of now, I do have one validated observation of *Solena umbellata*
>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/220455107>.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 3:48 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Going by the fruit shape it should be
>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2016/07/26/solena-umbellata/
>>> Fruit shape is different in
>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2016/02/17/solena-amplexicaulis/
>>> Pl. see attached publication for fruit shapes.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 7 Sept 2024 at 11:57, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Garg ji,
>>>>    Coming back to this old thread, I had made the correction back then.
>>>> However, just wanted to point out that the abstract of the paper you
>>>> pointed out, says:
>>>>  "The genus Solena Lour. is redefined, and its 3 species and 1
>>>> subspecies are keyed out and described:
>>>> S. amplexicaulis occurs in S India, S. heterophylla, with 2 subspecies
>>>> is widespread, but does not
>>>> occur in S India ..."
>>>> Based on this, Dinesh's images from Maharashtra
>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4789737927>, which are
>>>> also on FOI
>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Creeping%20Cucumber.html>,
>>>> should belong to *Solena amplexicaulis*.
>>>>    Tabish
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: J.M. Garg <Unknown>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:19:38 PM UTC+5:30
>>>> Subject: Images of Solena amplexicaulis in FOI should be of Solena
>>>> heterophylla Lour.
>>>> To: Flowers of India <Unknown>
>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <Unknown>, Dinesh Valke <Unknown>, Thingnam Girija
>>>> <Unknown>, Tabish Qureshi <Unknown>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>>>> Images of Solena amplexicaulis in FOI
>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Creeping%20Cucumber.html>
>>>> should be of Solena heterophylla Lour.
>>>> as per *Solena heterophylla* Lour.
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/solena/solena-heterophylla-1>
>>>>  &
>>>> as per comparative images at ‎Solena
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/solena>
>>>>  in
>>>> efi based on the following:
>>>> REVIEW OF THE GENUS SOLENA (CUCURBITACEAE)
>>>> <http://repository.naturalis.nl/document/566363>-  W.J.J.O. DE WILDE &
>>>> B.E.E. DUYFJES- BLUMEA 49: 69–81 (2004)
>>>> The Cucurbitaceae of India
>>>> <http://www.umsl.edu/~renners/Renner_Pandey_Indian_cucs_2013.pdf>:
>>>> Accepted names, synonyms, geographic distribution, and information on
>>>> images and DNA sequences by Susanne S. Renner, Arun K. Pandey. (2013)
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