I still see the same images. I don't agree with the id. Pl. see https://efloraofindia.com/2016/02/17/solena-amplexicaulis/ (only one observation so far in our site- see the typical fruit). (Distribution is restricted to Tamilnadu, Karnataka and Kerala only). We should keep these images as https://efloraofindia.com/2016/07/26/solena-umbellata/ only.
On Sat, 14 Sept 2024 at 21:08, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Dinesh and Garg ji, > I updated the fruit image on FOI: > https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Creeping%20Cucumber.html > PS: You may still see the old image from your browser cache unless it is > refreshed. > Tabish > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 5:06 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> "The first two photos showing flowers belong to observation dtd. July 11, >> 2010, ...will revise the ID to S. amplexicaulis."- *Difficult to say >> without fruits. *Only one observation so far in efi as per >> https://efloraofindia.com/2016/02/17/solena-amplexicaulis/ (Also it is >> found in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Kerala as per >> https://phytokeys.pensoft.net/article/1454/) >> >> On Sat, 14 Sept 2024 at 16:57, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Garg ji for attaching the publication; thanks Tabish for >>> resurfacing the old post. >>> >>> The first two photos showing flowers belong to observation dtd. July >>> 11, 2010 <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/81422504>, ...will >>> revise the ID to *S. amplexicaulis*. >>> >>> ... while the one showing the ridged fruit belongs to another,observation >>> of July 14, 2012 <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82402619> >>> which by now has been validated as *Solena heterophylla* by Prof. Dr. >>> Hanno Schaefer and Radha Veach. Going through the publication attached by >>> Garg ji does tell me that it ought to be *Solena umbellata*. >>> >>> As of now, I do have one validated observation of *Solena umbellata* >>> <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/220455107>. >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 3:48 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Going by the fruit shape it should be >>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2016/07/26/solena-umbellata/ >>>> Fruit shape is different in >>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2016/02/17/solena-amplexicaulis/ >>>> Pl. see attached publication for fruit shapes. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 7 Sept 2024 at 11:57, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Garg ji, >>>>> Coming back to this old thread, I had made the correction back >>>>> then. >>>>> However, just wanted to point out that the abstract of the paper you >>>>> pointed out, says: >>>>> "The genus Solena Lour. is redefined, and its 3 species and 1 >>>>> subspecies are keyed out and described: >>>>> S. amplexicaulis occurs in S India, S. heterophylla, with 2 >>>>> subspecies is widespread, but does not >>>>> occur in S India ..." >>>>> Based on this, Dinesh's images from Maharashtra >>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4789737927>, which are >>>>> also on FOI >>>>> <https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Creeping%20Cucumber.html>, >>>>> should belong to *Solena amplexicaulis*. >>>>> Tabish >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <Unknown> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:19:38 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>> Subject: Images of Solena amplexicaulis in FOI should be of Solena >>>>> heterophylla Lour. >>>>> To: Flowers of India <Unknown> >>>>> Cc: efloraofindia <Unknown>, Dinesh Valke <Unknown>, Thingnam Girija >>>>> <Unknown>, Tabish Qureshi <Unknown> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, Tabish ji, >>>>> Images of Solena amplexicaulis in FOI >>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Creeping%20Cucumber.html> >>>>> should be of Solena heterophylla Lour. >>>>> as per *Solena heterophylla* Lour. >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/solena/solena-heterophylla-1> >>>>> & >>>>> as per comparative images at Solena >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cucurbitaceae/solena> >>>>> in >>>>> efi based on the following: >>>>> REVIEW OF THE GENUS SOLENA (CUCURBITACEAE) >>>>> <http://repository.naturalis.nl/document/566363>- W.J.J.O. DE WILDE >>>>> & B.E.E. 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