Please read nutlets in place of seeds

On Monday, May 26, 2025 at 1:52:57 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:

> Dear members,
> Could it be Anchusa ovata with white instead of blue flowers
> The fruit and seeds show a striking resemblance 
> Would request opinion of some expert on this family
> Am posting photo of Anchusa ovata seeds from Crop Protection Online (Crop 
> Protection Online > Pests - Weed biology<br> <sub>Agro-region: 
> Denmark</sub> - Anchusa arvensis 
> <https://plantevaernonline.dlbr.dk/cp/graphics/Name.asp?Language=en-la&TaskID=1&NameID=27>)reproduction
>  
> allowed with reference to source
> Regards
> Taffazull
>
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 4:26:11 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Update on *Apononea baghatensis  *Syed:
>> The seedlings which had sprouted from self sown seeds thrived till May 
>> but as the temperature rose above 20-25 degrees Celsius the plants started 
>> to die and now all the leaves have withered though the stems are still 
>> somewhat green (see photo). I think this explains why there are no other 
>> wild plants of this species here. This is a plant of cold climate( could be 
>> alpine) and the plant I reported in DEC 2022 could have survived 
>> fortuitously because of the seed falling in a shady corner and a cooler 
>> summer. This is perhaps why it has never before been reported from Srinagar.
>> Regards
>> Taffazull
>>
>> On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 4:26:46 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A correction
>>> The description should read* "horizontal transversally oval"* rather 
>>> than "horizontal transversally oblong"
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 12:43:35 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Close up photo (Mag X15) of nutlets of *Apononea baghatensis*. Syed. 
>>>> Photo taken on 19 June 2024. Nutlets are glabrous, horizontal, 
>>>> transversally oblong with lateral beak . Thick basal ring  .Basal ring is 
>>>> not dentate (teeth are absent). Small squares of graph paper are 1 square 
>>>> millimeter.  
>>>> For comparison I used pictures of nutlets of different *Nonea* species 
>>>> of Iran given in the publication:
>>>>  Pakravan, M., Nejhad Falatoury, A. & Tavassoli, A. 2009 06 30: 
>>>> *Morphological 
>>>> and micromorphological studies of Nonea (Boraginaceae: tribe Boragineae) 
>>>> in 
>>>> Iran*. -  Iran. J. Bot. *15 *(1): 129-139. Tehran.
>>>> The shape of nutlets resembles that of many *Nonea* species whose 
>>>> photos are given in the above mentioned publication.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 7:38:16 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Photo of new plants of *Apononea baghatensis* Syed growing from seeds 
>>>>> self sown  in the planter in which I had transferred the plant I found 
>>>>> growing in a field in Rawathpora Baghat in 2021. I have named the genus 
>>>>> *Apononea 
>>>>> *because it closely resembles the genus *Nonea *in seed morphology 
>>>>> and habit but differs in having the calyx divided to the base while in 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> genus *Nonea *it is never divided to the base. I have named the 
>>>>> species *baghatensis *because it was found growing in a field in 
>>>>> Baghat. Since then I have confirmed that it is a biennial. The seedlings 
>>>>> in 
>>>>> the photo will come into full bloom in March/April next year and then die.
>>>>> I found a single plant growing in the field and since then I have not 
>>>>> come across another plant so it a rather uncommon weed. However luckily 
>>>>> due 
>>>>> to its tendency to self sow  the plants still thrive in my planter.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:49:52 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Update:
>>>>>> Photo of germinating seed taken today 18th July 2023. Radicle comes 
>>>>>> out  from the pointed end of the nutlet away from the areola.
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 3:39:53 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Update on *Apononea baghatensis  **(**Apononea baghatensis  *Syed is 
>>>>>>> the name that I propose for this plant as till date none of the members 
>>>>>>> have suggested an appropriate ID for the plant. Would request members 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> suggest a correction if needed.*)*
>>>>>>> Photo of new seedlings from seeds that had fallen in the planter in 
>>>>>>> April  is attached . The plant is a biennial. These seedlings will grow 
>>>>>>> into new plants and these will flower in March-April next year and then 
>>>>>>> die.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 12:33:16 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An update  :
>>>>>>>> The plant which was in full bloom in March has finally died in May.
>>>>>>>> This shows that it is a biennial.
>>>>>>>> Photo taken on 18th May is attached
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:57:54 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 at 11:46, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Two updates:
>>>>>>>>>> 1.Photo of Plant in planter in full bloom. Photo dated 20th of 
>>>>>>>>>> March
>>>>>>>>>> 2,Photo showing inflorescence racemose in fruit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 11:37:19 AM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 at 19:21, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Updates on *Apononea baghatii  *:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo1: Plant transferred to planter is doing well showing it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a perennial. Note flowers in terminal inflorescences at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ends of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> short lateral branches. These were probably present when it was 
>>>>>>>>>>>> transferred 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to planter last year and have now developed  with the advent of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Spring.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 2: A single flower
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 3 :Faucal appendages above the throat and neither 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fimbriated nor velvety. This is another difference from *Nonea*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 4:Corolla tube cut to show lower very hairy part of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> faucal appendages
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 5: Calyx removed to show geniculated corolla tube. The  
>>>>>>>>>>>> brownish yellow anthers can be seen just above the bend in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> corolla tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 7: Anthers inserted in the Corolla tube just above the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bend in the tube
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 8:Anthers.Filaments are very short and attachment is sub 
>>>>>>>>>>>> basal.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo9: Ovary with gynobasic style and bifid stigma. Outlines 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of four ovules are distinctly visible
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:25:03 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan, 2023, 1:01 pm [email protected], <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Three more photos:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 1 shows leaf with small(1mm or less) adpressed hairs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Large(>1mm) erect hairs. These hairs are present on both 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stems and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leaves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo2 shows the swollen base of a small adpressed hair at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X150 magnification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo3 shows the swollen base of a large erect hair at X150 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This shows that both adpressed and erect hairs have swollen 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bases when seen  under a microscope. However to the unaided eye 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it appears 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that only the larger hairs have swollen bases as mentioned by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some authors 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while describing the genus *Nonea.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:01:49 PM UTC+5:30 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A correction:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Length of nutlet is 3 mm and not 4 mm as is clear from the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo. So nutlet is 3 mm long and 2mm high
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:42:40 PM UTC+5:30 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Details of nutlets.*Nutlets 4, yellowish brown, 4mm long 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 2mm high,  beaked, rugose, convex above, ridges prominent 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tubercles between the ridges, attachment subventral ,areola of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thick 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prominent collar 0.4-0.5mm high, margin entire without 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denticulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 1 Nutlets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO2  Nutlet side view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 3 Nutlet from above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 4 Nutlet from below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 5 Sketch of a nutlet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 6 Attachment of nutlet to ovary wall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 7 Attachment of nutlet to ovary wall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 8 Nutlets in fruit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:42:59 AM UTC+5:30 JM 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 20:38, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Garg ji,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks  for appreciation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would like to put on record that in near future I would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be submitting a paper to Kew Bulletin " *Apononea 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bagathii  *a new genus of Boraginaceae from Kashmir 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valley" regarding which I have already placed some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion among  our group members as I am  convinced that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is a new, so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far unreported genus of the family. Would be grateful for a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plausible, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence based contrary opinion 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 3:37:02 PM UTC+5:30 JM 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji, for so many details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 20:14, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Details of corolla:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corolla  4.5mm  ,.white, infundibuliform. lobes 5, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1-1.5mm long , broad , obtuse and crenulate.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corolla tube 3mm long 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a sinuous bend  at bottom, Very delicately attached 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tends to fall 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off easily {See photo)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Details of androecium:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stamens 5 ,epipetalous , filaments very short, Stamens  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inserted below the throat in the middle of the tube (see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo),  ,anthers  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about1mm long, included.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pollen grains*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cigar shaped (perprolate), monosulcate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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