Am attaching photo of A ovata with white flowers. Photo by Yahya al  Yahya 
posted under CC licence in Flora of Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Web site in 
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On Wednesday, May 28, 2025 at 5:43:30 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:

> Dear Garg ji,
> Thanks for the guidance
> Accordng to Kazmi (Jr.Arnld Arboretum Vol 52 page670) *A .*ovata has been 
> reported from Nishat Bagh srinagar by Stewart and color of corolla is from 
> white to blue. I found another plant growing in a graveyard (photos 
> attached) but the morphology of the leaves is very variable. It is possible 
> it could be a sub species which needs the confirmation by some expert in 
> the genus.
> With regards
> Taffazull
>
> On Wednesday, May 28, 2025 at 12:17:02 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote:
>
>> May be, Taffazul ji, as per 
>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86154&flora_id=2
>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000047
>> https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5662067
>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:113319-1
>>
>> But what about the colour of the flower?
>>
>> Also check with the keys at 
>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=10115
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 26 May 2025 at 15:06, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please read nutlets in place of seeds
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 26, 2025 at 1:52:57 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear members,
>>>> Could it be Anchusa ovata with white instead of blue flowers
>>>> The fruit and seeds show a striking resemblance 
>>>> Would request opinion of some expert on this family
>>>> Am posting photo of Anchusa ovata seeds from Crop Protection Online (Crop 
>>>> Protection Online > Pests - Weed biology<br> <sub>Agro-region: 
>>>> Denmark</sub> - Anchusa arvensis 
>>>> <https://plantevaernonline.dlbr.dk/cp/graphics/Name.asp?Language=en-la&TaskID=1&NameID=27>)reproduction
>>>>  
>>>> allowed with reference to source
>>>> Regards
>>>> Taffazull
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 4:26:11 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Update on *Apononea baghatensis  *Syed:
>>>>> The seedlings which had sprouted from self sown seeds thrived till May 
>>>>> but as the temperature rose above 20-25 degrees Celsius the plants 
>>>>> started 
>>>>> to die and now all the leaves have withered though the stems are still 
>>>>> somewhat green (see photo). I think this explains why there are no other 
>>>>> wild plants of this species here. This is a plant of cold climate( could 
>>>>> be 
>>>>> alpine) and the plant I reported in DEC 2022 could have survived 
>>>>> fortuitously because of the seed falling in a shady corner and a cooler 
>>>>> summer. This is perhaps why it has never before been reported from 
>>>>> Srinagar.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 4:26:46 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A correction
>>>>>> The description should read* "horizontal transversally oval"* rather 
>>>>>> than "horizontal transversally oblong"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 12:43:35 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Close up photo (Mag X15) of nutlets of *Apononea baghatensis*. 
>>>>>>> Syed. Photo taken on 19 June 2024. Nutlets are glabrous, horizontal, 
>>>>>>> transversally oblong with lateral beak . Thick basal ring  .Basal ring 
>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>> not dentate (teeth are absent). Small squares of graph paper are 1 
>>>>>>> square 
>>>>>>> millimeter.  
>>>>>>> For comparison I used pictures of nutlets of different *Nonea* 
>>>>>>> species of Iran given in the publication:
>>>>>>>  Pakravan, M., Nejhad Falatoury, A. & Tavassoli, A. 2009 06 30: 
>>>>>>> *Morphological 
>>>>>>> and micromorphological studies of Nonea (Boraginaceae: tribe 
>>>>>>> Boragineae) in 
>>>>>>> Iran*. -  Iran. J. Bot. *15 *(1): 129-139. Tehran.
>>>>>>> The shape of nutlets resembles that of many *Nonea* species whose 
>>>>>>> photos are given in the above mentioned publication.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 7:38:16 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Photo of new plants of *Apononea baghatensis* Syed growing from 
>>>>>>>> seeds self sown  in the planter in which I had transferred the plant I 
>>>>>>>> found growing in a field in Rawathpora Baghat in 2021. I have named 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> genus *Apononea *because it closely resembles the genus *Nonea *in 
>>>>>>>> seed morphology and habit but differs in having the calyx divided to 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> base while in the genus *Nonea *it is never divided to the base. I 
>>>>>>>> have named the species *baghatensis *because it was found growing 
>>>>>>>> in a field in Baghat. Since then I have confirmed that it is a 
>>>>>>>> biennial. 
>>>>>>>> The seedlings in the photo will come into full bloom in March/April 
>>>>>>>> next 
>>>>>>>> year and then die.
>>>>>>>> I found a single plant growing in the field and since then I have 
>>>>>>>> not come across another plant so it a rather uncommon weed. However 
>>>>>>>> luckily 
>>>>>>>> due to its tendency to self sow  the plants still thrive in my planter.
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 6:49:52 PM UTC+5:30 [email protected] 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Update:
>>>>>>>>> Photo of germinating seed taken today 18th July 2023. Radicle 
>>>>>>>>> comes out  from the pointed end of the nutlet away from the areola.
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 3:39:53 PM UTC+5:30 
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Update on *Apononea baghatensis  **(**Apononea baghatensis  *Syed is 
>>>>>>>>>> the name that I propose for this plant as till date none of the 
>>>>>>>>>> members 
>>>>>>>>>> have suggested an appropriate ID for the plant. Would request 
>>>>>>>>>> members to 
>>>>>>>>>> suggest a correction if needed.*)*
>>>>>>>>>> Photo of new seedlings from seeds that had fallen in the planter 
>>>>>>>>>> in April  is attached . The plant is a biennial. These seedlings 
>>>>>>>>>> will grow 
>>>>>>>>>> into new plants and these will flower in March-April next year and 
>>>>>>>>>> then die.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 12:33:16 PM UTC+5:30 
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An update  :
>>>>>>>>>>> The plant which was in full bloom in March has finally died in 
>>>>>>>>>>> May.
>>>>>>>>>>> This shows that it is a biennial.
>>>>>>>>>>> Photo taken on 18th May is attached
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:57:54 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 at 11:46, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two updates:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.Photo of Plant in planter in full bloom. Photo dated 20th of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> March
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2,Photo showing inflorescence racemose in fruit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 11:37:19 AM UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Mar 2023 at 19:21, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updates on *Apononea baghatii  *:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo1: Plant transferred to planter is doing well showing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is a perennial. Note flowers in terminal inflorescences at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ends of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short lateral branches. These were probably present when it was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transferred 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to planter last year and have now developed  with the advent of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 2: A single flower
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 3 :Faucal appendages above the throat and neither 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fimbriated nor velvety. This is another difference from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Nonea*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 4:Corolla tube cut to show lower very hairy part of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the faucal appendages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 5: Calyx removed to show geniculated corolla tube. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The  brownish yellow anthers can be seen just above the bend in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the corolla 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tube.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 7: Anthers inserted in the Corolla tube just above the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bend in the tube
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 8:Anthers.Filaments are very short and attachment is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sub basal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo9: Ovary with gynobasic style and bifid stigma. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outlines of four ovules are distinctly visible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:25:03 PM UTC+5:30 J.M. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan, 2023, 1:01 pm [email protected], <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Three more photos:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo 1 shows leaf with small(1mm or less) adpressed hairs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Large(>1mm) erect hairs. These hairs are present on both 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stems and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leaves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo2 shows the swollen base of a small adpressed hair at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X150 magnification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photo3 shows the swollen base of a large erect hair at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X150 magnification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This shows that both adpressed and erect hairs have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swollen bases when seen  under a microscope. However to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unaided eye it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears that only the larger hairs have swollen bases as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned by some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authors while describing the genus *Nonea.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:01:49 PM UTC+5:30 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A correction:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Length of nutlet is 3 mm and not 4 mm as is clear from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the photo. So nutlet is 3 mm long and 2mm high
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:42:40 PM UTC+5:30 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Details of nutlets.*Nutlets 4, yellowish brown, 4mm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long and 2mm high,  beaked, rugose, convex above, ridges 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prominent with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tubercles between the ridges, attachment subventral ,areola 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of thick 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prominent collar 0.4-0.5mm high, margin entire without 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denticulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 1 Nutlets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO2  Nutlet side view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 3 Nutlet from above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 4 Nutlet from below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 5 Sketch of a nutlet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 6 Attachment of nutlet to ovary wall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 7 Attachment of nutlet to ovary wall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHOTO 8 Nutlets in fruit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:42:59 AM UTC+5:30 JM 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 20:38, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Garg ji,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks  for appreciation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would like to put on record that in near future I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be submitting a paper to Kew Bulletin " *Apononea 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bagathii  *a new genus of Boraginaceae from Kashmir 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valley" regarding which I have already placed some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion among  our group members as I am  convinced 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it is a new, so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far unreported genus of the family. Would be grateful for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a plausible, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence based contrary opinion 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taffazull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 3:37:02 PM UTC+5:30 JM 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Taffazull ji, for so many details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 20:14, [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Details of corolla:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corolla  4.5mm  ,.white, infundibuliform. lobes 5, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1-1.5mm long , broad , obtuse and crenulate.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corolla tube 3mm long 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a sinuous bend  at bottom, Very delicately 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached and tends to fall 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off easily {See photo)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Details of androecium:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stamens 5 ,epipetalous , filaments very short, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stamens  inserted below the throat in the middle of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tube (see photo),  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,anthers  about1mm long, included.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Pollen grains*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cigar shaped (perprolate), monosulcate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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