It is not Indian Crabs but habit of all crabs in general. This phrase is popularly used for Cancerian i.e. Kark Rashi people in Astrology. ;)
regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > I agree with Shrikant sir on one point. We Indians have this habit of > pointing on others but we never tend to correct ourselves. > Sorry to say that!!...but if every Indian tries to correct his or her > own deeds then India will surely emerge out as a better nation than > any other country in the world. There is a very bad phrase for Indians > in Germany. You put the Indian Crabs in a bucket and none will come > out.....WHY????.... because each one of them is pulling legs of > others!!!! > > Regards > Pankaj > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:45 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I am repeating my comments posted else where some time back. > > Incidently only Mr. Oudhia responded with concern on it (Loss to > > Iphigenia stellata). In the recent pictures no car is seen off the > > road and inspite of all the inconvenience they seem to be parked in > > descipline. When you are within a crowd of 37K, no point complaining > > about mob mentality. Please excuse me for this comment but instead of > > pointing at the 'other idiot' (just a phrase) each one should refrain > > from visiting on a peak flowering day. I refused to go as a resource > > person with 3 groups and all went on the same Sunday. Kas is a great > > place to go any time and many times. > > > > First of all pls trust that I am with the sentiments of members over > > conservation of Kas heritage. I have been watching this location for > > the past 35 years for its flora. I wish to assure everyone that Kas > > flora diversity and distribution has not changed a bit in the last 35 > > years. This is in spite of trampling, burning, grazing and other > > local > > interventions over infinite years. Most of the plants here have > > rhizomes, tubers or bulbs that remain safe under the ground to sprout > > in the next monsoon. Plants regenerating from seeds are abundent and > > plucking by a few over enthusiasts makes a little or no difference to > > their re-appearance. Plants said to have some use are plucked the > > most. > > > > > > The only plant that may be facing a threat is Iphigenia stellata. In > > July when other plants are not in bloom and Kas is deserted, several > > people arrive at Kas early morniing and dig out plants with tubers. A > > plant per 1 sq m is dug out and taken away for medicinal use. Its > > fortunate (?) that the plant still sprouts each year to be collected > > next year. I am hence srictly against spelling out any uses for any > > plant; and on top of it people think wild plants have more potency > > than the cultivated ones. Why can't they grow such plants in their > > fields? > > > > > > The most concerning part is the thronging of enthusiasts in great > > numbers on a particular day. The facilities certainly can not cope up > > to accomodate 5000 vehicles and 20,000 visitors. (As reported on 19 > > th > > Sept) Every visitor thinks that others should not have come. Best > > way > > to enjoy Kas in such a situations is to avoid peak hours and to avoid > > peak crowding days. If local businessmen see a huge crowd thronging, > > they are bound to cash on the needs of visitors. Unfortunetely the > > crowd is creating the market for resorts, eating houses and stalls. > > As > > such the influx of visitors (and even this concern) fades away with > > the bloom of flowers and in other months no one cares to stop at Kas > > plateau. I have stopped going to Kas for the last few years. There > > are > > many plateaus around but they are not accessible by car like Kas. > > > > > > Putting up a board to show the exact location is not necessary; > > people > > who know the plants don't miss it but why attract even the ignorant > > ones? Every time conservation issue is raised, the forest dept (or I > > do not know who) takes up tree plantation at any site. Kas is no > > exception to this disaster. Several Silver Oaks can be seen planted > > on > > the plateau proudly by some one. Putting up a fence to prevent > > movement of people and cattle also can be harmful. The famous valley > > of flowers is grossly invaded by Polygonum and Impatiens due to such > > restrictions. > > > > > > Littering is a problem with visitors but thats a national problem. We > > can only reduce it with volutary help. Many local groups await help > > from visitors on this issue. A meet of Kas lovers in an off season > > month to pick garbage will be very useful. Action beyond just > > complaining is welcome. > > > > > > Developement in terms of mining and wind mills would be disastrous > > but > > I am sure Kas will be spared from such invasion. Every location > > suited > > for a non polluting non conventional energy resource is bound to be > > on > > a plateau and is bound to have some flora and fauna. A balanced > > approach rather than a total ban would resolve this issue. As such > > the > > wind mill site gets under tight security after the installation. It > > would be worthwhile to find out how the the flora and fauna has > > changed there after a few years of isolation. > > > > > > No one can resist going to Kas and posting the spectacle on Orkut, > > Facebook or Google groups. I feel that we ourselves should ensure > > that > > we do not burden Kas. If a tea stall comes up we should refrain from > > holding a steaming cup in the rolling mist of Kas. The plateau > > expects > > least interventions from outsiders like us, it will sustain and > > please > > us as it has done over the years. > > > > > > Thank you and with regards, Shrikant > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 3:46 pm, arvind kadus <[email protected]> wrote: > >> KAAS..Ata BAA...SS ! Asach Mhanayachi Vel Aliye! > >> Here are some veiws showing how we Indian people are ! Now we have > to say Ab Bass !!! > >> KAAS BACHAO ! Prevent to make it another PANCHGANI ! > >> Last Sat Sunday 37000 people visited Kaas, This sat Sunday data yet to > come ! Imagin how much quantity of the plants were distroyed by the people > in these Sat Sundays! > >> Dr.Kadus Arvind, Pune. > >> > >> Nature Vs Devolopment.JPG > >> 38KViewDownload > >> > >> Need to stop now!.JPG > >> 31KViewDownload > >> > >> Parking of approx 1 km line..JPG > >> 43KViewDownload > >> > >> People are coming with full of Buses.JPG > >> 64KViewDownload > >> > >> Photo Kadhanyachi Kewadhi Ti Haus !!.JPG > >> 62KViewDownload > >> > >> Smithia Crying !!.JPG > >> 130KViewDownload > >> > >> Traffic jam at KAAS..JPG > >> 45KViewDownload > >> > >> We have to Stop this !.JPG > >> 140KViewDownload > > > > -- > *********************************************** > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Research Associate > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > Department of Habitat Ecology > Wildlife Institute of India > Post Box # 18 > Dehradun - 248001, India >
