Having hundreds of German fans but never heard it. If they say Indian Crabs then one can correct it by giving this simple scientific explanation. :)
Leg pulling is Global Phenomenon even common in Plant Kingdom. Many terms it as Allelopathy. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > No, I am talking about may be the german version of the phrase where > they specifically say INDIAN CRABS!! > Pankaj > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It is not Indian Crabs but habit of all crabs in general. This phrase is > > popularly used for Cancerian i.e. Kark Rashi people in Astrology. ;) > > > > regards > > > > Pankaj Oudhia > > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> I agree with Shrikant sir on one point. We Indians have this habit of > >> pointing on others but we never tend to correct ourselves. > >> Sorry to say that!!...but if every Indian tries to correct his or her > >> own deeds then India will surely emerge out as a better nation than > >> any other country in the world. There is a very bad phrase for Indians > >> in Germany. You put the Indian Crabs in a bucket and none will come > >> out.....WHY????.... because each one of them is pulling legs of > >> others!!!! > >> > >> Regards > >> Pankaj > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:45 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Dear All, > >> > > >> > I am repeating my comments posted else where some time back. > >> > Incidently only Mr. Oudhia responded with concern on it (Loss to > >> > Iphigenia stellata). In the recent pictures no car is seen off the > >> > road and inspite of all the inconvenience they seem to be parked in > >> > descipline. When you are within a crowd of 37K, no point complaining > >> > about mob mentality. Please excuse me for this comment but instead of > >> > pointing at the 'other idiot' (just a phrase) each one should refrain > >> > from visiting on a peak flowering day. I refused to go as a resource > >> > person with 3 groups and all went on the same Sunday. Kas is a great > >> > place to go any time and many times. > >> > > >> > First of all pls trust that I am with the sentiments of members over > >> > conservation of Kas heritage. I have been watching this location for > >> > the past 35 years for its flora. I wish to assure everyone that Kas > >> > flora diversity and distribution has not changed a bit in the last 35 > >> > years. This is in spite of trampling, burning, grazing and other > >> > local > >> > interventions over infinite years. Most of the plants here have > >> > rhizomes, tubers or bulbs that remain safe under the ground to sprout > >> > in the next monsoon. Plants regenerating from seeds are abundent and > >> > plucking by a few over enthusiasts makes a little or no difference to > >> > their re-appearance. Plants said to have some use are plucked the > >> > most. > >> > > >> > > >> > The only plant that may be facing a threat is Iphigenia stellata. In > >> > July when other plants are not in bloom and Kas is deserted, several > >> > people arrive at Kas early morniing and dig out plants with tubers. A > >> > plant per 1 sq m is dug out and taken away for medicinal use. Its > >> > fortunate (?) that the plant still sprouts each year to be collected > >> > next year. I am hence srictly against spelling out any uses for any > >> > plant; and on top of it people think wild plants have more potency > >> > than the cultivated ones. Why can't they grow such plants in their > >> > fields? > >> > > >> > > >> > The most concerning part is the thronging of enthusiasts in great > >> > numbers on a particular day. The facilities certainly can not cope up > >> > to accomodate 5000 vehicles and 20,000 visitors. (As reported on 19 > >> > th > >> > Sept) Every visitor thinks that others should not have come. Best > >> > way > >> > to enjoy Kas in such a situations is to avoid peak hours and to avoid > >> > peak crowding days. If local businessmen see a huge crowd thronging, > >> > they are bound to cash on the needs of visitors. Unfortunetely the > >> > crowd is creating the market for resorts, eating houses and stalls. > >> > As > >> > such the influx of visitors (and even this concern) fades away with > >> > the bloom of flowers and in other months no one cares to stop at Kas > >> > plateau. I have stopped going to Kas for the last few years. There > >> > are > >> > many plateaus around but they are not accessible by car like Kas. > >> > > >> > > >> > Putting up a board to show the exact location is not necessary; > >> > people > >> > who know the plants don't miss it but why attract even the ignorant > >> > ones? Every time conservation issue is raised, the forest dept (or I > >> > do not know who) takes up tree plantation at any site. Kas is no > >> > exception to this disaster. Several Silver Oaks can be seen planted > >> > on > >> > the plateau proudly by some one. Putting up a fence to prevent > >> > movement of people and cattle also can be harmful. The famous valley > >> > of flowers is grossly invaded by Polygonum and Impatiens due to such > >> > restrictions. > >> > > >> > > >> > Littering is a problem with visitors but thats a national problem. We > >> > can only reduce it with volutary help. Many local groups await help > >> > from visitors on this issue. A meet of Kas lovers in an off season > >> > month to pick garbage will be very useful. Action beyond just > >> > complaining is welcome. > >> > > >> > > >> > Developement in terms of mining and wind mills would be disastrous > >> > but > >> > I am sure Kas will be spared from such invasion. Every location > >> > suited > >> > for a non polluting non conventional energy resource is bound to be > >> > on > >> > a plateau and is bound to have some flora and fauna. A balanced > >> > approach rather than a total ban would resolve this issue. As such > >> > the > >> > wind mill site gets under tight security after the installation. It > >> > would be worthwhile to find out how the the flora and fauna has > >> > changed there after a few years of isolation. > >> > > >> > > >> > No one can resist going to Kas and posting the spectacle on Orkut, > >> > Facebook or Google groups. I feel that we ourselves should ensure > >> > that > >> > we do not burden Kas. If a tea stall comes up we should refrain from > >> > holding a steaming cup in the rolling mist of Kas. The plateau > >> > expects > >> > least interventions from outsiders like us, it will sustain and > >> > please > >> > us as it has done over the years. > >> > > >> > > >> > Thank you and with regards, Shrikant > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Oct 4, 3:46 pm, arvind kadus <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> KAAS..Ata BAA...SS ! Asach Mhanayachi Vel Aliye! > >> >> Here are some veiws showing how we Indian people are ! Now we have > >> >> to say Ab Bass !!! > >> >> KAAS BACHAO ! Prevent to make it another PANCHGANI ! > >> >> Last Sat Sunday 37000 people visited Kaas, This sat Sunday data yet > to > >> >> come ! Imagin how much quantity of the plants were distroyed by the > people > >> >> in these Sat Sundays! > >> >> Dr.Kadus Arvind, Pune. > >> >> > >> >> Nature Vs Devolopment.JPG > >> >> 38KViewDownload > >> >> > >> >> Need to stop now!.JPG > >> >> 31KViewDownload > >> >> > >> >> Parking of approx 1 km line..JPG > >> >> 43KViewDownload > >> >> > >> >> People are coming with full of Buses.JPG > >> >> 64KViewDownload > >> >> > >> >> Photo Kadhanyachi Kewadhi Ti Haus !!.JPG > >> >> 62KViewDownload > >> >> > >> >> Smithia Crying !!.JPG > >> >> 130KViewDownload > >> >> > >> >> Traffic jam at KAAS..JPG > >> >> 45KViewDownload > >> >> > >> >> We have to Stop this !.JPG > >> >> 140KViewDownload > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> *********************************************** > >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > >> > >> > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > >> Research Associate > >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > >> Department of Habitat Ecology > >> Wildlife Institute of India > >> Post Box # 18 > >> Dehradun - 248001, India > > > > > > > > -- > *********************************************** > "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > Research Associate > Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project > Department of Habitat Ecology > Wildlife Institute of India > Post Box # 18 > Dehradun - 248001, India >
