Yazdy ji There is an old mail by Sibdas Ghosh. Further investigation into this may probably resolve the issue.
https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/890cbecb3e3ff8a1?hl=en&pli=1 There is another useful link in our database http://www.fleppc.org/ID_book/solanum%20viarum.pdf Nomenclature of this plant was discussed by Prof. Babu. A perusal of these papers may help further - Babu & Hepper. 1978. Taxonomy and nomenclature of Solanum khasianum and some of its relatives. Kew Bull. 34:409. - Babu. 1971. The identity of Solanum khasianum Cl. var. chatterjeeanum Sen Gupta (Solanaceae). J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 67:610. May be Tanay or any other member with access to Library may help -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: > Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji, > I am a lay person and may be wrong. I would like to know which is the > fruit that I had posted last year? I had photographed the flowers, > fruits while it was green , slowly turning yellow and then red. I do > not know how to locate them on efloraof india.com or indianreepix.com > . In which case that will have to be renamed. > The leaves are the same, the prickles are the same, the fruits size > and colour while raw are the same, the flowers were purple. The size > of the fruits were the same. The plant though was not as big as the > ones in the pictures sent today. > Regards > Yazdy. > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yazdy ji > > Here is some characters of S. viarum from Flora of china: > > > > armed with recurved prickles 2-5 × 1-5(-8) mm and sometimes with > needlelike > > prickles 1-4 mm........Corolla white or green.....................pale > > yellow, globose, 2-3 cm in diam. > > > > Even the key in Flora of China separates S. viarum and other species on > the > > basis of pale yellow fruit. > > > > There are numerous photographs on net with pale yellow fruits, none with > red > > > > > http://www.floridasnature.com/images/Tropical%20Soda%20Apple_Solanum%20viarum%20Dunal.jpg > > > > http://zipcodezoo.com/photographers/John%20W.%20Everest.asp > > > > http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=5290026 > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_viarum_1149076.jpg > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_viarum_1149076.jpg > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/c23rrkIiRh4TmwOIgnY1lg > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > Retired Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Friends , > >> From the links provided by Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji, it is clear, it is > >> not Solanum mammosum as the fruits are totally different. > >> The description of Solanum Viarum prickles size shown as up to 5 mm > >> long is not correct. The prickles can be as long as 15 mm as seen in > >> the second link provided by Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji. However the yellow > >> fruits seen on the almost dead plant is because it has not ripened but > >> decayed. The third picture of Solanum viarum clearly shows the fruit > >> is yellow and slowly turning red. > >> I think it is solanum Viarum. > >> Regards > >> Yazdy. > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Solanum mammosum is known as MACAWBUSH, NIPLEFRUIT--densely hairy and > >> > prickly herb; flowers mauve; fruits ovoid-oblong, 4-7 cm long, yellow, > >> > Solanum viarum (syn: S. khasianum Cl. var. chatterjeanum > >> > S. Gupta): TROPICAL SODA APPLE—Small shrub with glandular hairs; > >> > prickles > >> > up > >> > to 5 mm long, curved as well straight; infl 1-5 fld, peduncle reduced; > >> > corolla white; berry pale yellow, 2-3 cm across. > >> > > >> > > http://www.turtlegabys-tropical-oasis.com/catalog.php/TurtlegabysTropicalOasis/dt/pd329958 > >> > Perhaps yazdi ji can comment in light of above comparison. Habit and > >> > fruits > >> > are very different in two. > >> > > >> > > >> > > http://www.gri.msstate.edu/ipams/Species.php?SName=Solanum+viarum&CName= > >> > > >> > > http://www.floridasnature.com/images/Tropical%20Soda%20Apple_Solanum%20viarum%20Dunal.jpg > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Pudji Widodo <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I think it is Solanum mammosum or nipplefruit > >> >> > >> >> Pudji Widodo > >> >> Fakultas Biologi Unsoed > >> >> PURWOKERTO INDONESIA > >> >> > >> >> On Oct 23, 12:58 pm, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Thank You Mani, I will try to find it out by the Malayalam name . > >> >> > However, once again, the flowers are white, whereas the pictures I > >> >> > had > >> >> > submitted last year had purple flowers.Certain portals show both > >> >> > purple as well as white flowers. > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > Yazdy. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, mani nair <[email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > Yazdy ji, nice photo. In Malayalam we call it "Kattuvazuthana" > >> >> > > meaning wild brinjal. > >> >> > > Regards, > >> >> > > Mani. > >> >> > > >> >> > > On 10/22/10, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> Friends, > >> >> > >> Solanum Viarum. > >> >> > >> Date & Time 22 October 2010 > >> >> > >> Location: Place, Altitude, GPS Chethalayam, Wayanad. > >> >> > >> Habitat: Garden, Urban, Wild Type: Wild > >> >> > >> Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb shrub > >> >> > >> Height, Length. 2.5’ > >> >> > >> Leaves Type, Shape, Size Irregular with spines > >> >> > >> Inflorescence Type Size > >> >> > >> Flowers Size Colour Calyx Bracts- White > >> >> > >> Fruits Type, Shape, Size Seeds Round 25 mm > >> >> > >> Other Information like Frangrance, Pollinator, Uses. > >> >> > >> Regards > >> >> > >> Yazdy. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> You have been sent 3 pictures. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> DSCN3841.JPG > >> >> > >> DSCN3842.JPG > >> >> > >> DSCN3844.JPG > >> >> > > >> >> > >> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. > >> >> > >> Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/ > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >> > Retired Associate Professor > >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
