Yazdy ji Kindly wait for fruits of this plant to mature. We may be able to conclude better.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Yazdy ji > > I think you are refering to this post of yours > > > https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/1e8978281b90d4cf/20ac18a2887f43d9?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Solanum+viarum#20ac18a2887f43d9 > > > <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/1e8978281b90d4cf/20ac18a2887f43d9?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Solanum+viarum#20ac18a2887f43d9>This > was identified as S. capsicoides by my ftr a long discussion > > > Here are some good threads of S. viarum on our group > > > https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/7b848402d12b3658/f0b719e91b027ae2?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Solanum+viarum#f0b719e91b027ae2 > > > <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/7b848402d12b3658/f0b719e91b027ae2?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Solanum+viarum#f0b719e91b027ae2> > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yazdy ji >> There is an old mail by Sibdas Ghosh. Further investigation into this may >> probably resolve the issue. >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/890cbecb3e3ff8a1?hl=en&pli=1 >> >> There is another useful link in our database >> >> http://www.fleppc.org/ID_book/solanum%20viarum.pdf >> >> >> Nomenclature of this plant was discussed by Prof. Babu. A perusal of these >> papers may help further >> >> >> - Babu & Hepper. 1978. Taxonomy and nomenclature of Solanum khasianum >> and some of its relatives. Kew Bull. 34:409. >> - Babu. 1971. The identity of Solanum khasianum Cl. var. >> chatterjeeanum Sen Gupta (Solanaceae). J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 67:610. >> >> >> >> May be Tanay or any other member with access to Library may help >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji, >>> I am a lay person and may be wrong. I would like to know which is the >>> fruit that I had posted last year? I had photographed the flowers, >>> fruits while it was green , slowly turning yellow and then red. I do >>> not know how to locate them on efloraof india.com or indianreepix.com >>> . In which case that will have to be renamed. >>> The leaves are the same, the prickles are the same, the fruits size >>> and colour while raw are the same, the flowers were purple. The size >>> of the fruits were the same. The plant though was not as big as the >>> ones in the pictures sent today. >>> Regards >>> Yazdy. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Yazdy ji >>> > Here is some characters of S. viarum from Flora of china: >>> > >>> > armed with recurved prickles 2-5 × 1-5(-8) mm and sometimes with >>> needlelike >>> > prickles 1-4 mm........Corolla white or green.....................pale >>> > yellow, globose, 2-3 cm in diam. >>> > >>> > Even the key in Flora of China separates S. viarum and other species on >>> the >>> > basis of pale yellow fruit. >>> > >>> > There are numerous photographs on net with pale yellow fruits, none >>> with red >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.floridasnature.com/images/Tropical%20Soda%20Apple_Solanum%20viarum%20Dunal.jpg >>> > >>> > http://zipcodezoo.com/photographers/John%20W.%20Everest.asp >>> > >>> > http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=5290026 >>> > >>> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_viarum_1149076.jpg >>> > >>> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_viarum_1149076.jpg >>> > >>> > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/c23rrkIiRh4TmwOIgnY1lg >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> > Retired Associate Professor >>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> > >>> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Dear Friends , >>> >> From the links provided by Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji, it is clear, it is >>> >> not Solanum mammosum as the fruits are totally different. >>> >> The description of Solanum Viarum prickles size shown as up to 5 mm >>> >> long is not correct. The prickles can be as long as 15 mm as seen in >>> >> the second link provided by Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji. However the yellow >>> >> fruits seen on the almost dead plant is because it has not ripened but >>> >> decayed. The third picture of Solanum viarum clearly shows the fruit >>> >> is yellow and slowly turning red. >>> >> I think it is solanum Viarum. >>> >> Regards >>> >> Yazdy. >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] >>> > >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Solanum mammosum is known as MACAWBUSH, NIPLEFRUIT--densely hairy >>> and >>> >> > prickly herb; flowers mauve; fruits ovoid-oblong, 4-7 cm long, >>> yellow, >>> >> > Solanum viarum (syn: S. khasianum Cl. var. chatterjeanum >>> >> > S. Gupta): TROPICAL SODA APPLE—Small shrub with glandular hairs; >>> >> > prickles >>> >> > up >>> >> > to 5 mm long, curved as well straight; infl 1-5 fld, peduncle >>> reduced; >>> >> > corolla white; berry pale yellow, 2-3 cm across. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> http://www.turtlegabys-tropical-oasis.com/catalog.php/TurtlegabysTropicalOasis/dt/pd329958 >>> >> > Perhaps yazdi ji can comment in light of above comparison. Habit and >>> >> > fruits >>> >> > are very different in two. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> http://www.gri.msstate.edu/ipams/Species.php?SName=Solanum+viarum&CName= >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> http://www.floridasnature.com/images/Tropical%20Soda%20Apple_Solanum%20viarum%20Dunal.jpg >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Pudji Widodo < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I think it is Solanum mammosum or nipplefruit >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Pudji Widodo >>> >> >> Fakultas Biologi Unsoed >>> >> >> PURWOKERTO INDONESIA >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Oct 23, 12:58 pm, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> > Thank You Mani, I will try to find it out by the Malayalam name . >>> >> >> > However, once again, the flowers are white, whereas the pictures >>> I >>> >> >> > had >>> >> >> > submitted last year had purple flowers.Certain portals show both >>> >> >> > purple as well as white flowers. >>> >> >> > Regards >>> >> >> > Yazdy. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, mani nair < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> > > Yazdy ji, nice photo. In Malayalam we call it "Kattuvazuthana" >>> >> >> > > meaning wild brinjal. >>> >> >> > > Regards, >>> >> >> > > Mani. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > > On 10/22/10, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> > >> Friends, >>> >> >> > >> Solanum Viarum. >>> >> >> > >> Date & Time 22 October 2010 >>> >> >> > >> Location: Place, Altitude, GPS Chethalayam, Wayanad. >>> >> >> > >> Habitat: Garden, Urban, Wild Type: Wild >>> >> >> > >> Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb shrub >>> >> >> > >> Height, Length. 2.5’ >>> >> >> > >> Leaves Type, Shape, Size Irregular with spines >>> >> >> > >> Inflorescence Type Size >>> >> >> > >> Flowers Size Colour Calyx Bracts- White >>> >> >> > >> Fruits Type, Shape, Size Seeds Round 25 mm >>> >> >> > >> Other Information like Frangrance, Pollinator, Uses. >>> >> >> > >> Regards >>> >> >> > >> Yazdy. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> You have been sent 3 pictures. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> DSCN3841.JPG >>> >> >> > >> DSCN3842.JPG >>> >> >> > >> DSCN3844.JPG >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. >>> >> >> > >> Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/ >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> >> > Retired Associate Professor >>> >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >
