Yazdy ji I think you are refering to this post of yours
https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/1e8978281b90d4cf/20ac18a2887f43d9?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Solanum+viarum#20ac18a2887f43d9 <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/1e8978281b90d4cf/20ac18a2887f43d9?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Solanum+viarum#20ac18a2887f43d9>This was identified as S. capsicoides by my ftr a long discussion Here are some good threads of S. viarum on our group https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/7b848402d12b3658/f0b719e91b027ae2?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Solanum+viarum#f0b719e91b027ae2 <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/7b848402d12b3658/f0b719e91b027ae2?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Solanum+viarum#f0b719e91b027ae2> -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Yazdy ji > There is an old mail by Sibdas Ghosh. Further investigation into this may > probably resolve the issue. > > > https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/890cbecb3e3ff8a1?hl=en&pli=1 > > There is another useful link in our database > > http://www.fleppc.org/ID_book/solanum%20viarum.pdf > > > Nomenclature of this plant was discussed by Prof. Babu. A perusal of these > papers may help further > > > - Babu & Hepper. 1978. Taxonomy and nomenclature of Solanum khasianum > and some of its relatives. Kew Bull. 34:409. > - Babu. 1971. The identity of Solanum khasianum Cl. var. chatterjeeanum > Sen Gupta (Solanaceae). J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 67:610. > > > > May be Tanay or any other member with access to Library may help > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji, >> I am a lay person and may be wrong. I would like to know which is the >> fruit that I had posted last year? I had photographed the flowers, >> fruits while it was green , slowly turning yellow and then red. I do >> not know how to locate them on efloraof india.com or indianreepix.com >> . In which case that will have to be renamed. >> The leaves are the same, the prickles are the same, the fruits size >> and colour while raw are the same, the flowers were purple. The size >> of the fruits were the same. The plant though was not as big as the >> ones in the pictures sent today. >> Regards >> Yazdy. >> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Yazdy ji >> > Here is some characters of S. viarum from Flora of china: >> > >> > armed with recurved prickles 2-5 × 1-5(-8) mm and sometimes with >> needlelike >> > prickles 1-4 mm........Corolla white or green.....................pale >> > yellow, globose, 2-3 cm in diam. >> > >> > Even the key in Flora of China separates S. viarum and other species on >> the >> > basis of pale yellow fruit. >> > >> > There are numerous photographs on net with pale yellow fruits, none with >> red >> > >> > >> http://www.floridasnature.com/images/Tropical%20Soda%20Apple_Solanum%20viarum%20Dunal.jpg >> > >> > http://zipcodezoo.com/photographers/John%20W.%20Everest.asp >> > >> > http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=5290026 >> > >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_viarum_1149076.jpg >> > >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_viarum_1149076.jpg >> > >> > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/c23rrkIiRh4TmwOIgnY1lg >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear Friends , >> >> From the links provided by Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji, it is clear, it is >> >> not Solanum mammosum as the fruits are totally different. >> >> The description of Solanum Viarum prickles size shown as up to 5 mm >> >> long is not correct. The prickles can be as long as 15 mm as seen in >> >> the second link provided by Dr. Gurcharan Singh ji. However the yellow >> >> fruits seen on the almost dead plant is because it has not ripened but >> >> decayed. The third picture of Solanum viarum clearly shows the fruit >> >> is yellow and slowly turning red. >> >> I think it is solanum Viarum. >> >> Regards >> >> Yazdy. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Solanum mammosum is known as MACAWBUSH, NIPLEFRUIT--densely hairy and >> >> > prickly herb; flowers mauve; fruits ovoid-oblong, 4-7 cm long, >> yellow, >> >> > Solanum viarum (syn: S. khasianum Cl. var. chatterjeanum >> >> > S. Gupta): TROPICAL SODA APPLE—Small shrub with glandular hairs; >> >> > prickles >> >> > up >> >> > to 5 mm long, curved as well straight; infl 1-5 fld, peduncle >> reduced; >> >> > corolla white; berry pale yellow, 2-3 cm across. >> >> > >> >> > >> http://www.turtlegabys-tropical-oasis.com/catalog.php/TurtlegabysTropicalOasis/dt/pd329958 >> >> > Perhaps yazdi ji can comment in light of above comparison. Habit and >> >> > fruits >> >> > are very different in two. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> http://www.gri.msstate.edu/ipams/Species.php?SName=Solanum+viarum&CName= >> >> > >> >> > >> http://www.floridasnature.com/images/Tropical%20Soda%20Apple_Solanum%20viarum%20Dunal.jpg >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Pudji Widodo <[email protected] >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is Solanum mammosum or nipplefruit >> >> >> >> >> >> Pudji Widodo >> >> >> Fakultas Biologi Unsoed >> >> >> PURWOKERTO INDONESIA >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 12:58 pm, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Thank You Mani, I will try to find it out by the Malayalam name . >> >> >> > However, once again, the flowers are white, whereas the pictures I >> >> >> > had >> >> >> > submitted last year had purple flowers.Certain portals show both >> >> >> > purple as well as white flowers. >> >> >> > Regards >> >> >> > Yazdy. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, mani nair <[email protected] >> > >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> > > Yazdy ji, nice photo. In Malayalam we call it "Kattuvazuthana" >> >> >> > > meaning wild brinjal. >> >> >> > > Regards, >> >> >> > > Mani. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > On 10/22/10, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > >> Friends, >> >> >> > >> Solanum Viarum. >> >> >> > >> Date & Time 22 October 2010 >> >> >> > >> Location: Place, Altitude, GPS Chethalayam, Wayanad. >> >> >> > >> Habitat: Garden, Urban, Wild Type: Wild >> >> >> > >> Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb shrub >> >> >> > >> Height, Length. 2.5’ >> >> >> > >> Leaves Type, Shape, Size Irregular with spines >> >> >> > >> Inflorescence Type Size >> >> >> > >> Flowers Size Colour Calyx Bracts- White >> >> >> > >> Fruits Type, Shape, Size Seeds Round 25 mm >> >> >> > >> Other Information like Frangrance, Pollinator, Uses. >> >> >> > >> Regards >> >> >> > >> Yazdy. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> You have been sent 3 pictures. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> DSCN3841.JPG >> >> >> > >> DSCN3842.JPG >> >> >> > >> DSCN3844.JPG >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. >> >> >> > >> Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> > Retired Associate Professor >> >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >
