Just wanted to add. Euphorbia is a very big group and one most interesting thing is, the genus Euphorbia has two type species, Euphorbia antiquorum and Euphirbia serrata. I never heard a genus with two types before. If anyone else knows then please do add to our information. Kew has a list of around over 5000 names of which only ~2000 names are accepted. That itself depicts the taxonomic complications here. Regards Pankaj
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Muthu > Here is the lectotype of Euphorbia antiquorum L. > Lectotype : Herb. Clifford: 196, Euphorbia 1 (BM-000628669) > Designated by: Wijnands in Bot. Commelins : 97 (1983) > You can clearly make out which is the real Euphorbia antiquorum. > > There is another species called Euphorbia royleana. Kindly check your > plant with that description. I am not sure if this plant is found in > South India but it is supposed to be widespread from Pakistan to > Taiwan. I assume I have seen it in Uttarakhand as well as Rajasthan. > > Regards > Pankaj > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> >> Date: Feb 15, 12:08 pm >> Subject: thorny Euphorbia sp. >> To: efloraofindia >> >> >> Dear all, >> These plants are from the same locality. Kindly excuse me for mixing >> two >> species(?) in the same post. Please guide me in this morphology of * >> Euphorbia* spp. >> >> The previous plant posted have straight grooves and not that of *E. >> antiquorum*. Is this any physical variation or totally the species is >> different? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Thank you all, and Pardeshiji cleared my doubt on inflorescence colour. >> >>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Usha Desai <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> E. antqourum....nice picture of Praying mantis in the last picture,preying >>>> for prey[?] >>>> Thanks for sharing.E antquorum is flowering all over Mumbai. >>>> Usha Desai >> >>>> On 1 February 2011 20:11, tanay bose <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> *Euphorbia antiquorum* >>>>> ***Tanay >>>>> * >> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Pardeshi S. >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>>>>> the young inflorescence appears green. once the ivary is formed it >>>>>> would impart the reddish/ purplish tone. >> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Satish Pardeshi >> >>>>>> On Feb 1, 4:31 pm, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > Muthu ji >>>>>> > I would go with E. antiquurum, because the angles are distinctly >>>>>> 3-winged, >>>>>> > the wings are running almost straight. In E. tortilis the angles are >>>>>> not >>>>>> > that promently winged, they are lobulate with stout paired spines on >>>>>> lobes, >>>>>> > and most importantly the angles are spirally twisted like we have in >>>>>> E. >>>>>> > neriifolia where of course the angles are not that prominents, and >>>>>> there are >>>>>> > 5 spiral rows. >> >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> > Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Muthu Karthick <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > > Dear all, >>>>>> > > descriptions match this thorny shrub as *Euphorbia antiquorum*. I >>>>>> suspect >>>>>> > > this to be a different species owing to the colour of flowers. >>>>>> Please >>>>>> > > help to solve this. >>>>>> > > Could this be *E. tortilis*? >> >>>>>> > > Location: Sathyamangalam wls; 300 msl >>>>>> > > Date: 15 Dec 2010 >> >>>>>> > > -- >>>>>> > > Muthu Karthick, N >>>>>> > > Junior Research Fellow >>>>>> > > Care Earth Trust >>>>>> > > #15, second main road, >>>>>> > > Thillai ganga nagar, >>>>>> > > Chennai - 600 061 >>>>>> > > Mob: 09626833911 >>>>>> > >www.careearthtrust.org >> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Tanay Bose* >>>>> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. >>>>> Department of Botany. >>>>> University of British Columbia . >>>>> 3529-6270 University Blvd. >>>>> Vancouver, B.C. 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