Perhaps the easiest difference between the two species Leaves shining and glabrous on both surfaces....................................Morinda citrifolia Leaves tomentose on both surfaces..................................................Morinda coreia
In light of this above plant should be M. coreia -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Neil ji and Dinesh ji > > The link and discussion cited by Neil ji was dated in 2009, and lot has > changed since the publication of KEW Plant List in 2010. It still contains > some ambiguities but hope we will have to live with these for at least 2-3 > years more till things are sorted out. > > The name Morinda pubescens Sm., according to Kew Plant List is unplaced > name, yet to be resolved > > In Flora of British India, Sir J D Hooker, while naming the variety M. > tinctoria var. tomentosa Hook.f. did cite M. tomentosa Heyne in Roth as the > first synonym, but perhaps the two plants are different (Hooker also gave > differentiating characters as leaves tomentose on both surfaces, peduncles > leaf-opposed) and that is why the entry at Kew Plant List as well TROPICOS > (and Fernandez, Trees of Mumbai, page 174, 1999--though I have not seen > this) lists the variety as tomentosa Hook.f and not (Heyne ex Roth) Hook.f., > similarly Fernandez while transferring this to species to *M. coreia* > Buch.-Ham., > names it as *M. coreia* Buch.-Ham. var. *tomentosa *(Hook.f.) Fernandez > and not *M. coreia* Buch.-Ham. var. tomentosa (Heyne ex Roth) Fernandez. > ......................This taxon (excluding M. tomentosa Hehne ex Roth) is > according to KEW Plant List synonym of M. *M. coreia* Buch.-Ham. In fact > M. tinctoria Roxb. itself is synonym of *M. coreia* Buch.-Ham > > http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-129800 > > > The fact that two (*M. tinctoria* var. *tomentosa* Hook.f. and M. > tomentosa Heyne ex Roth) are different is supported by the fact that *M. > tomentosa* Heyne ex Roth is now considered as synonym of *M. citrifolia*L. > > http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-129953 > > Perhaps both species (M. coreia and M. citrifolia) occur in India and a > reliable recent key should help. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Neil Soares <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi, >> Thought we had settled this issue. Please refer to this link: >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/5927bedae08f10f4/d1f9f53b736d543e?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Morinda+tomentosa+Neil+Soares#d1f9f53b736d543e >> >> Regards, >> Neil Soares. >> >> --- On *Thu, 5/26/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:70406] Re: Please identify this tree >> To: "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 11:36 PM >> >> >> Gurcharan ji ... *OR* did you imply *M. pubescens* is J. E. Sm is now >> reduced to synonmy of *M. coreia* Buch.-Ham. ? >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Dinesh Valke >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> Gurcharan ji, >> >> 1) *M. tinctoria Roxb. var tomentosa (Heyne ex Roth.) Hook. f*. ... >> synonym of *M. pubescens* J. E. Sm >> 2) *M. tinctoria var. tomentosa Hook.f.* ... renamed as *M. coreia* var. >> *tomentosa* (Hook. f.) R.R.Fernandez ... synonym of *M. coreia*Buch.-Ham. >> >> Wanting to clear my confusion ... hope these: 1) and 2) are distinct. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Gurcharan Singh >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> According to Kew Plant List Morinda tinctoria var. tomentosa Hook.f. was >> renamed Morinda coreia var. >> tomentosa<http://www.tropicos.org/Name/100225909> (Hook. >> f.) R.R.Fernandez (TROPICOS information) in Trees of Mumbai 174, 1999. This >> is now considered as synonym of *Morinda* *coreia* Buch.-Ham. >> >> http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-129800 >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:31 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think M. tinctoria Roxb. var tomentosa (Heyne ex Roth.) Hook. f. is syn >> of M. pubescens J. E. Sm. >> >> >> >> -- >> - H.S. >> >> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of >> stone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
