HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMM THANKS MADHURI --- On Mon, 19/9/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82269] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY (Marathi)... bhat ghagari To: "Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy" <[email protected]>, "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Date: Monday, 19 September, 2011, 11:40 AM Many thanks Madhuri ji for working on the bhat ghagari ... it has helped thrash the ambiguity. Most of Crotalaria species have some of their names related to sound; more related to child's rattle toy ... thus, in various languages: English: cat's bell, rattlepod, rattlebox, shack-shack Gujarati: ઘૂઘરો ghugharo Hindi: घुंगरी ghungri, झुनझुनिया jhunjhunia Marathi: डिंगळा dingala, खुळखुळा khulkhula, फटफटी phatphati Kannada: ಗಿಜಿಗಿಜಿ ಗಿಡ gijigiji gida ... and so on. Rathinasabapathy ji, ... not knowing the reason why you are not able to see the picture put in my message ... link to that picture in my flickr photostream is http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4174379450/ Many thanks for showing pictures of Crotalaria verrucosa at your blog. Regards. Dinesh On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy <[email protected]> wrote: Pl. go through the link (pict. of C.v). I am not able to open the pict. from yr. mail. http://nbranaikatti.blogspot.com/search?q=Crotalaria+verrucosa+ On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:37 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: Yes it is called as Khulkhula in Marathi? Then not surname but that aa pronunciation will be correct. Because it means the people who praise God!!! They are the stutipathak of God, Rajas etc. So they will be making some ringing noise isn't it of bell or ghungaru! Thanks for making me think. I hope matter is clear Madhuri Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:28:04 +0530 To: Madhuri Pejaver<[email protected]> Cc: efloraofindia<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82249] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari ... yes, the seedpods make rattle-like noise. Here are seed-pods of Crotalaria speciosa which look similar to that of C. verrucosa Some of the meanings of भाट [ bhata ] are: 1 ... A place in the sea or a river which appears at low water; a shoal, shallow, sand- bank. 2 ... An elevated and level spot occurring in arable land; dry therefore and fit only for the inferior grains. 3 ... Ground prepared for sugarcane: also a plantation of sugarcanes. 4 ... A class of people or an individual of it. They are minstrels or bards. 5 ... ... An empty chatterer. Regards. Dinesh On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> wrote: Had read your other meanings , but could not make anything out of it unless 1, how or what is the shape of the fruit? 2. Does it make any noise when dry?// 3,because all meanings given by you indicate noise. So it has to be related to either noise or shape. Ghagar is the word generally used by Bhats/ dont know but think so, because others use kalashi? This is all scrathing brain not knowlege. but trying to get it. --- On Mon, 19/9/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82175] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, 19 September, 2011, 1:15 AM Many thanks Madhuri ji. But what does भट in भट घागरी mean ? any idea ? Other than घागरी being plural of घागर meaning a vessel or pot (made of copper, brass, or earth) to hold water, ... the other meanings of घागरी are: a bell or jingling ball (as of a child's girdle, or as worn on the toes by dancing girls &c.); the fruit of a plant commonly known as घागरा. Regards. Dinesh On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> wrote: perfect! will try, time is a great constrain. isnt Ghagri means the pot called ghagar? plural of it? So pot like appearence? --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82175] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 3:49 PM Madhuri ji ... did you mean to say भट घागरी ? ... any meaning for this भट as a prefix to घागरी Meaning of घागरी 1 ... A bell or jingling ball (as of a child's girdle, or as worn on the toes by dancing girls &c.) 2 ... The fruit of घागरा. 3 ... The plant commonly घागरा Have attached a javascrpted-HTML for generating Devanagari script ... you may try your hand at it. Regards. Dinesh On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected]> wrote: would have to try once that Marathi font. will do soon. Pronounce it as Marathi surname. Madhuri --- On Sun, 18/9/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Subject: [efloraofindia:82154] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 1:20 PM Dear Marathi-knowing friends, One of the names for Crotalaria verrucosa L. is bhat ghagari ... ENVIS - FRLHT Not sure how is bhat spelt in this context ... would it be भाट घागरी OR भात घागरी OR yet any other word ? Regards. Dinesh -- B. 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