... have updated my notes ... many many thanks Giby ji. Regards. Dinesh
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]>wrote: > Yes it is correct! Most of the common Crotalaria are called either Kilukki > or Kilukilukki the later might produce more rattle sound. > > Regards, > Giby > > > > On 19 September 2011 20:49, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ... many thanks Giby ji for this name ... is this കിലുകിലുക്കി correct >> spelling of kilukilukki ? >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Kilukilukki in Malayalam. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Giby >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 September 2011 11:40, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Many thanks Madhuri ji for working on the bhat ghagari ... it has helped >>>> thrash the ambiguity. >>>> >>>> Most of *Crotalaria* species have some of their names related to sound; >>>> more related to child's rattle toy ... thus, in various languages: >>>> English: cat's bell, rattlepod, rattlebox, shack-shack >>>> Gujarati: ઘૂઘરો ghugharo >>>> Hindi: घुंगरी ghungri, झुनझुनिया jhunjhunia >>>> Marathi: डिंगळा dingala, खुळखुळा khulkhula, फटफटी phatphati >>>> Kannada: ಗಿಜಿಗಿಜಿ ಗಿಡ gijigiji gida >>>> ... and so on. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rathinasabapathy ji, ... not knowing the reason why you are not able to >>>> see the picture put in my message ... link to that picture in my flickr >>>> photostream is http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4174379450/ >>>> Many thanks for showing pictures of *Crotalaria verrucosa* at your >>>> blog. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pl. go through the link (pict. of C.v). I am not able to open the pict. >>>>> from yr. mail. >>>>> >>>>> http://nbranaikatti.blogspot.com/search?q=Crotalaria+verrucosa+ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:37 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> **Yes it is called as Khulkhula in Marathi? Then not surname but that >>>>>> aa pronunciation will be correct. Because it means the people who praise >>>>>> God!!! They are the stutipathak of God, Rajas etc. So they will be making >>>>>> some ringing noise isn't it of bell or ghungaru! >>>>>> Thanks for making me think. >>>>>> I hope matter is clear >>>>>> Madhuri >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sender: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Date: *Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:28:04 +0530 >>>>>> *To: *Madhuri Pejaver<[email protected]> >>>>>> *Cc: *efloraofindia<[email protected]> >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [efloraofindia:82249] Names of Plants in India :: >>>>>> QUERY (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari >>>>>> >>>>>> ... yes, the seedpods make rattle-like noise. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are seed-pods of *Crotalaria speciosa* which look similar to >>>>>> that of *C. verrucosa* >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Khulkhula (Marathi: >>>>>> खुळखुळा)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4174379450%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc1QOlwwOZi7wOgNI5K_zQHysdEMQ> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of the meanings of भाट [ bhata ] are: >>>>>> 1 ... A place in the sea or a river which appears at low water; a >>>>>> shoal, shallow, sand- bank. >>>>>> 2 ... An elevated and level spot occurring in arable land; dry >>>>>> therefore and fit only for the inferior grains. >>>>>> 3 ... Ground prepared for sugarcane: also a plantation of sugarcanes. >>>>>> 4 ... A class of people or an individual of it. They are minstrels or >>>>>> bards. >>>>>> 5 ... ... An empty chatterer. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Madhuri Pejaver < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Had read your other meanings , but could not make anything out of >>>>>>> it unless >>>>>>> 1, how or what is the shape of the fruit? >>>>>>> 2. Does it make any noise when dry?// >>>>>>> 3,because all meanings given by you indicate noise. So it has to be >>>>>>> related to either noise or shape. >>>>>>> Ghagar is the word generally used by Bhats/ dont know but think so, >>>>>>> because others use kalashi? >>>>>>> This is all scrathing brain not knowlege. but trying to get it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On *Mon, 19/9/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82175] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY >>>>>>> (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari >>>>>>> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Monday, 19 September, 2011, 1:15 AM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks Madhuri ji. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But what does भट in भट घागरी mean ? any idea ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Other than घागरी being plural of घागर meaning a vessel or pot (made >>>>>>> of copper, brass, or earth) to hold water, ... the other meanings of >>>>>>> घागरी are: a bell or jingling ball (as of a child's girdle, or as >>>>>>> worn on the toes by dancing girls &c.); the fruit of a plant commonly >>>>>>> known >>>>>>> as घागरा. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Madhuri Pejaver < >>>>>>> [email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> perfect! >>>>>>> will try, time is a great constrain. >>>>>>> isnt Ghagri means the pot called ghagar? plural of it? >>>>>>> So pot like appearence? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On *Sun, 18/9/11, Dinesh Valke >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> >* wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82175] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY >>>>>>> (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari >>>>>>> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cc: "efloraofindia" >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 3:49 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Madhuri ji ... did you mean to say भट घागरी ? ... any meaning for >>>>>>> this भट as a prefix to घागरी >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Meaning of घागरी >>>>>>> 1 ... A bell or jingling ball (as of a child's girdle, or as worn on >>>>>>> the toes by dancing girls &c.) >>>>>>> 2 ... The fruit of घागरा. >>>>>>> 3 ... The plant commonly घागरा >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have attached a javascrpted-HTML for generating Devanagari script ... >>>>>>> you may try your hand at it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Madhuri Pejaver < >>>>>>> [email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> would have to try once that Marathi font. will do soon. >>>>>>> Pronounce it as Marathi surname. >>>>>>> Madhuri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On *Sun, 18/9/11, Dinesh Valke >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> >* wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:82154] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY >>>>>>> (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari >>>>>>> To: "efloraofindia" >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 1:20 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Marathi-knowing friends, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Crotalaria verrucosa >>>>>>> L.]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5926671005%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcXiLXPDH0nuvkG1dxUtjHmacu8vg> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the names for *Crotalaria verrucosa* L. is bhat ghagari ... ENVIS >>>>>>> - FRLHT<http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=672&parname=0> >>>>>>> Not sure how is bhat spelt in this context ... would it be भाट घागरी >>>>>>> OR भात घागरी OR yet any other word ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> B. 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