... many thanks Giby ji for this name ... is this കിലുകിലുക്കി correct spelling of kilukilukki ? Regards. Dinesh
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected]>wrote: > Kilukilukki in Malayalam. > > > Regards, > Giby > > > > On 19 September 2011 11:40, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Many thanks Madhuri ji for working on the bhat ghagari ... it has helped >> thrash the ambiguity. >> >> Most of *Crotalaria* species have some of their names related to sound; >> more related to child's rattle toy ... thus, in various languages: >> English: cat's bell, rattlepod, rattlebox, shack-shack >> Gujarati: ઘૂઘરો ghugharo >> Hindi: घुंगरी ghungri, झुनझुनिया jhunjhunia >> Marathi: डिंगळा dingala, खुळखुळा khulkhula, फटफटी phatphati >> Kannada: ಗಿಜಿಗಿಜಿ ಗಿಡ gijigiji gida >> ... and so on. >> >> >> >> Rathinasabapathy ji, ... not knowing the reason why you are not able to >> see the picture put in my message ... link to that picture in my flickr >> photostream is http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4174379450/ >> Many thanks for showing pictures of *Crotalaria verrucosa* at your blog. >> >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Pl. go through the link (pict. of C.v). I am not able to open the pict. >>> from yr. mail. >>> >>> http://nbranaikatti.blogspot.com/search?q=Crotalaria+verrucosa+ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:37 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> **Yes it is called as Khulkhula in Marathi? Then not surname but that >>>> aa pronunciation will be correct. Because it means the people who praise >>>> God!!! They are the stutipathak of God, Rajas etc. So they will be making >>>> some ringing noise isn't it of bell or ghungaru! >>>> Thanks for making me think. >>>> I hope matter is clear >>>> Madhuri >>>> >>>> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> *Sender: *[email protected] >>>> *Date: *Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:28:04 +0530 >>>> *To: *Madhuri Pejaver<[email protected]> >>>> *Cc: *efloraofindia<[email protected]> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [efloraofindia:82249] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY >>>> (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari >>>> >>>> ... yes, the seedpods make rattle-like noise. >>>> >>>> Here are seed-pods of *Crotalaria speciosa* which look similar to that >>>> of *C. verrucosa* >>>> >>>> [image: Khulkhula (Marathi: >>>> खुळखुळा)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4174379450%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc1QOlwwOZi7wOgNI5K_zQHysdEMQ> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Some of the meanings of भाट [ bhata ] are: >>>> 1 ... A place in the sea or a river which appears at low water; a shoal, >>>> shallow, sand- bank. >>>> 2 ... An elevated and level spot occurring in arable land; dry therefore >>>> and fit only for the inferior grains. >>>> 3 ... Ground prepared for sugarcane: also a plantation of sugarcanes. >>>> 4 ... A class of people or an individual of it. They are minstrels or >>>> bards. >>>> 5 ... ... An empty chatterer. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Madhuri Pejaver <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Had read your other meanings , but could not make anything out of it >>>>> unless >>>>> 1, how or what is the shape of the fruit? >>>>> 2. Does it make any noise when dry?// >>>>> 3,because all meanings given by you indicate noise. So it has to be >>>>> related to either noise or shape. >>>>> Ghagar is the word generally used by Bhats/ dont know but think so, >>>>> because others use kalashi? >>>>> This is all scrathing brain not knowlege. but trying to get it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Mon, 19/9/11, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82175] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY >>>>> (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari >>>>> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Monday, 19 September, 2011, 1:15 AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks Madhuri ji. >>>>> >>>>> But what does भट in भट घागरी mean ? any idea ? >>>>> >>>>> Other than घागरी being plural of घागर meaning a vessel or pot (made of >>>>> copper, brass, or earth) to hold water, ... the other meanings of घागरी >>>>> are: a bell or jingling ball (as of a child's girdle, or as worn on the >>>>> toes by dancing girls &c.); the fruit of a plant commonly known as घागरा. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Madhuri Pejaver < >>>>> [email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> perfect! >>>>> will try, time is a great constrain. >>>>> isnt Ghagri means the pot called ghagar? plural of it? >>>>> So pot like appearence? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Sun, 18/9/11, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> >* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82175] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY >>>>> (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari >>>>> To: "Madhuri Pejaver" >>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> Cc: "efloraofindia" >>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 3:49 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Madhuri ji ... did you mean to say भट घागरी ? ... any meaning for this >>>>> भट as a prefix to घागरी >>>>> >>>>> Meaning of घागरी >>>>> 1 ... A bell or jingling ball (as of a child's girdle, or as worn on >>>>> the toes by dancing girls &c.) >>>>> 2 ... The fruit of घागरा. >>>>> 3 ... The plant commonly घागरा >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have attached a javascrpted-HTML for generating Devanagari script ... >>>>> you may try your hand at it. >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Madhuri Pejaver < >>>>> [email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> would have to try once that Marathi font. will do soon. >>>>> Pronounce it as Marathi surname. >>>>> Madhuri >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Sun, 18/9/11, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> >* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke >>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:82154] Names of Plants in India :: QUERY >>>>> (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari >>>>> To: "efloraofindia" >>>>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 1:20 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Marathi-knowing friends, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Crotalaria verrucosa >>>>> L.]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5926671005%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcXiLXPDH0nuvkG1dxUtjHmacu8vg> >>>>> >>>>> One of the names for *Crotalaria verrucosa* L. is bhat ghagari ... ENVIS >>>>> - FRLHT<http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=672&parname=0> >>>>> Not sure how is bhat spelt in this context ... would it be भाट घागरी >>>>> OR भात घागरी OR yet any other word ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> B. Rathinasabapathy >>> Project Co-ordinator >>> Nilgiri Biosphere Nature Park >>> 1388, Avinashi Road >>> Peelamedu >>> Coimbatore-641004 >>> >>> <http://mail.google.com/subscribe.mhtml> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD > Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), > Royal Enclave, > Jakkur Post, Srirampura > Bangalore- 560064 > India > Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) > visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >
