Many thanks sir for detail explanation. The paper is also very very useful
and informative.

Regards

prasad

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ushadi micromini
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Very nice pappus..
>
> nice to be able to hold and it not fly away  from the slight breeze
> created by breathing ...
>
> I find it very difficult to id lactuca ( very common in disturbed
> soils in NY) from sowthistle : Sonchus..
> the flowers and leaves are very (   :) irritatingly  similar ) ...
> does this mean wait till fall to id the plants?
> when the seedheads appear?
>
> Usha di
> ===
>
> On Nov 4, 4:02 pm, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thank you Sir ji for explaining the details
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > Madhuri ji, interestingly it is not achene in the real sense, but a
> term
> > > very commonly used in this family. The fruit type is actually cypsella
> > > (formed from two united carpels with inferior ovary, dry fruit
> containing
> > > single seed). The real achene is found in Ranunculaceae. in Ranunculus,
> > > Anemone, Clematis, etc. carpels are free and single seeded dry fruit is
> > > formed from single carpel. In other genera, Delphinium, Aquilegia,
> etc.,
> > > each free carpel contains more than one ovule, and fruit matures into
> > > follicle.
> >
> > > --
> > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > > Retired  Associate Professor
> > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> > >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >> Thank you Sir ji for the paper. Very nice paper on key to the genera
> > >> based on achene characters. And yes today I learned a new word in
> Botany
> > >> 'achene' meaning single-seeded fruits .Thank you
> >
> > >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> > >>> Thanks a lot Madhuri ji. The last photograph is very useful for this
> > >>> group of steraceae. In fact one can identify the plant only from
> this. Here
> > >>> is my paper on this published in 1972.
> >
> > >>> --
> > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > >>> Retired  Associate Professor
> > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > >>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> > >>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > >>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >>>> Sir ji,
> > >>>> Very beautiful set of photographs. esp
> *Lactuca-scariola-Balgarden-Kashmir-3-DSC06662.jpg
> > >>>> and the one showing *dehiscence. Never seen something like this
> > >>>> before.Thank you Prasad ji for mentioning the word. I was waiting
> for
> > >>>> someone to mention it so that I can share my appreciation too as I
> did not
> > >>>> know how to describe it.
> >
> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> Thanks Prasad ji
> >
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > >>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
> > >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> > >>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, prasad dash <
> [email protected]
> > >>>>> > wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> Sit to me both DSC06683 and DSC06267 are awesome. Never seen such
> a
> > >>>>>> wonderful phorograph (DSC06267) of dehiscence.
> >
> > >>>>>> Regrads
> >
> > >>>>>> prasad
> >
> > >>>>>> * *
> >
> > >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Gurcharan Singh <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>> *Lactuca serriola* L., Cent. pl. II:29. 1756 (Amoen. acad. 4:328.
> > >>>>>>> 1759)
> > >>>>>>> syn:  *Lactuca scariola* L.; *Lactuca augustana* All.
> >
> > >>>>>>> Common name: Prickly lettuce
> >
> > >>>>>>>  Tall prickly herb reaching 1.5 m, branched, prickly towards
> base;
> > >>>>>>> leaves sessile, pinnatifid with toothed segmrnts pointing
> downwards,
> > >>>>>>> prickly on midrib and nerves beneath, upper leaves stem-clasping
> with
> > >>>>>>> arrow-shaped base; heads yellow, 9-12 mm in diam.,  in long
> panicles with
> > >>>>>>> spreading branches; involucre bracts oblong; achene brown nearly
> 3 mm long
> > >>>>>>> with slender almost as long longer beak, pappus hairs white.
> >
> > >>>>>>> Very common in Kashmir valley in wastelands, borders of fields
> and
> > >>>>>>> road sides , photographed from Balgarden and University Campus
> in August.
> >
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > >>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
> > >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> > >>>>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Prasad Kumar Dash
> > >>>>>> Ecologist, Orissa, India
> > >>>>>> email: [email protected]
> > >>>>>> ph. 09437444241
> >
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Regards
> > >>>> Dr.Bhagyashri Ranade
> >
> > >> --
> > >> Regards
> > >> Dr.Bhagyashri Ranade
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Dr.Bhagyashri Ranade
>



-- 
Prasad Kumar Dash
Ecologist, Orissa, India
email: [email protected]
ph. 09437444241

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