Bimal da, love the TS eliot poem... sending your reply to eflora/indiatreepix, folks would enjoy it.. Thanks usha di ==
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Bimal Sar kar <[email protected]> wrote: > Ushadi ,I have gone through the complete interactions.I got educated.To my > mind we mistake EDUCATED with LITERATE.Most of our so called educated > people are highly literate with a few exceptions here and there.Here I am > tempted to quote T S Eliot, > " Where is that life we lost in living, > where is that wisdom we lost in knowledge, > where is the knowledge we lost in information ? " > ( > Chorus of the rock ) > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:00 AM, ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> you are right Giby about getting a degree but no education... in >> gujarati there is a proverb... loosely translated it says ...studied (got >> degrees) but did not learn...[?], >> all languages must have similar sayings... >> >> yes there is lot of junk on the net... but one must learn to separate the >> grains from the chaff... at least that is taught in school in 4th grade... >> >> but basically it goes down to the human heart mind and soul where one >> needs to trust their own intuition and take everything that comes thru the >> email with a grain of salt...or two... or even a large fistful as in these >> ( forwarded times many ) cases... >> >> >> that's called growing up.... >> >> that's taught at family level... ask your parents... they are more >> learned and wiser than often is the case// the cases of even many , if not >> all, college professors... >> >> usha di >> == >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Education is generally scaled on the basis of marks that you have scored >>> in examinations (where you have chances to forget things after the >>> vacation!). Sometimes it is scaled on the basis of multiple choice >>> questions. Chance favors here to some level depending upon individuals. The >>> educated people came out with the degree and (mostly) without having basic >>> knowledge. At some point you become restricted to some discipline that >>> makes you blind at everything else. Whoever who has an open heart and mind >>> would come and attack everything and get to know what is in it. >>> >>> So this is how things are happening, I guess. If I know something and if >>> someone comes and ask, I would think that this person never got the chance >>> I had got to understand this particular point/thing. I must have got it >>> from some other source, by the way. >>> >>> I don't think that getting irritated is a remedy to make others know >>> what we know/understood from nature or by reading or by interaction. If >>> they have a good, ear, mind, heart (sometimes a combination of all these) >>> would make them good student. >>> If someone do not know which is right and which is wrong there is no >>> point in searching in internet because there are more wrong than right! >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks and Regards, >>> Giby >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13 June 2012 23:09, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> yes Giby... i subscribe to the idea that there is always a different >>>> viewpoint... >>>> and you have a point that PEOPLE got EDUCATED NOW.... >>>> and Thank you rajesh to ask!!! >>>> >>>> bu it still gets me irritated that such gullibility exists in the >>>> educated masses.. >>>> .look at all the people in the forwarded messages list... . >>>> in these days of internet where correct info is only a second two >>>> away... >>>> >>>> if I can find it, anybody can >>>> >>>> But as you say .... good for them... sela vie ... >>>> Usha di >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It can be the other way also. >>>>> >>>>> People who dont know about such things would get correct guidance and >>>>> thereby the right knowledge. I don't feel anything wrong in gaining >>>>> knowledge by circulating such things. But it should be in the right forum >>>>> and fortunately we have many experts to get things corrected and take it >>>>> to >>>>> the right way. >>>>> >>>>> Further, It is better than not. Because so many people are blindly >>>>> going after such fake (exciting) things that are geting forwarded in the >>>>> internet. I appreciate the courage of Rachesh to bring it up for an open >>>>> discussion. I am sure he, and several other members, now got a clear >>>>> picture on the same and such things. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>> Giby >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13 June 2012 22:40, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks mam for ur msg.. >>>>>> People should know basic things before forwarding information... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Usha Di, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some people are allergic to certain common vegetables, even as >>>>>>> common as brinjal or some edible araceae members, but that doesn't mean >>>>>>> that we should tag those plants as "deadly poisonous". Yes, raphides may >>>>>>> choke certain person, but i think they are exceptions to the common >>>>>>> rule. >>>>>>> Yet, my knowledge is so limited. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a saying in Bengali, you know, JEMON BUNO OL TEMNI BAGHA >>>>>>> TENTUL, so if you face raphides get healed by tartaric acid!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:40 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DEAR RAJESH: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BEFORE YOU entertain such emails that are forwarded and forwarded >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> please ask questions whether you want to open it or entertain the >>>>>>>> message in it.. >>>>>>>> basic rule if its worth reading, somebody will sure send you a >>>>>>>> write up in their own words... >>>>>>>> or call you if they really wanted your well being... not circulate >>>>>>>> ssuilly emails... melodramatic >>>>>>>> hogwash.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This has happened here too often ... here.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> THIS IS A HOAX..... >>>>>>>> AGAIN AND AGAIN I HAVE SAID THAT EDUCATED INDIAN SHOULD >>>>>>>> BE SMART ENOUGH TO NOT FALL PREY TO THESE..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> YET some stupid overly sentimental jerk believes it and >>>>>>>> these things make the rounds.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AND WHY IS THIS LADY SOOOOOOOOO WORRIED >>>>>>>> ABOUT HER CHILDREN???/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MAY BE BECAUSE SHE LEAVES THEM WITH A BABY SITTER TO >>>>>>>> GO OUT NOT ONLY TO OFFICE (which is a necessity) but to see >>>>>>>> movies, >>>>>>>> to kitty parties to nites out with friends...!!!!!!!! STAY HOME >>>>>>>> WITH CHILDREN >>>>>>>> AND TEACH THEM AND YOURSELF SOME GOOD SENSE.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AND DO SOME RESEARCH..... if these ladies have a computer to >>>>>>>> receive >>>>>>>> and send out these silly emails she must have enough >>>>>>>> time and sense to do this research, it took me one second to type >>>>>>>> DIFFENBACHIA was introduced as houseplants when? by whom? >>>>>>>> thinking that I could find the long history... >>>>>>>> as a houseplant and allay the fears.... of the sender >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but second in the page of results was this URL: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>> 2. Killer *House Plant* >>>>>>>> Warning<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoax-slayer.com%2Fkiller-house-plant-warning.shtml&ei=z4rYT-_YGaGsiAfsiZ2VAw&usg=AFQjCNGrxaWfBAA1aOBBOVq8BXfB8fttpg> >>>>>>>> www.hoax-slayer.com/killer-*house-plant*-warning.shtml >>>>>>>> 11 May 2010 – Message claims that an *indoor plant* that is >>>>>>>> commonly kept in homes and offices is *...* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and in the body of that writing is this paragraph..... *I quote..* >>>>>>>> .. >>>>>>>> " The plant depicted in the photograph is in fact a >>>>>>>> dieffenbachia<http://houseplants.about.com/od/foliageplants/p/Dieffenbachia.htm> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> , a species commonly used as a potted house plant because of its >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> attractive appearance and its suitability for indoor, low light >>>>>>>> intensity >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> growing environments. Dieffenbachia is indeed poisonous to humans >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and animals if parts of the plant are ingested. Dieffenbachia is >>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> known as "Dumb Cane" because of the toxic effect it can have on >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the mouth and tongue if chewed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, this warning quite significantly exaggerates the risk of >>>>>>>> death >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> associated with dieffenbachia poisoning. The results of >>>>>>>> dieffenbachia >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> poisoning are normally not life threatening and victims usually >>>>>>>> make a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> full recovery. Given that eating the plant may potentially cause >>>>>>>> swelling >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> severe enough to block the victim's airways, death *is* a possible >>>>>>>> result. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, research indicates that actual fatalities in humans are >>>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> rare. Certainly, there are no credible medical reports that back up >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> suggestion in the warning message that death is a common and very >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> rapid result of dieffenbachia poisoning. An article discussing >>>>>>>> caladium, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dieffenbachia, and philodendron plant poisoning published on the >>>>>>>> Emedicine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> website notes<http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1009003-overview>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Patients with history of oral exposure (chewing and/or >>>>>>>> swallowing) >>>>>>>> have been reported to have severe swelling, drooling, dysphagia, >>>>>>>> and respiratory compromise, but this is not common. In a large >>>>>>>> retrospective study of 188 patients with plant oxalate exposure, >>>>>>>> all cases were determined to be minor and all resolved with minor >>>>>>>> or no treatment. Patients can also experience dermal and ocular >>>>>>>> exposure, resulting in contact dermatitis or keratoconjunctivitis. >>>>>>>> Symptoms that result from these routes of exposure also appear >>>>>>>> to resolve with supportive care. The serious complication of >>>>>>>> aortoesophageal fistula following ingestion of a dieffenbachia leaf >>>>>>>> in a girl aged 12.5 years has been described in a single 2005 case >>>>>>>> report. >>>>>>>> The girl recovered following surgical intervention. * >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And, the claim that rubbing your eyes after touching the plant can >>>>>>>> cause >>>>>>>> permanent blindness also seems to be an exaggeration. The Emedicine >>>>>>>> article >>>>>>>> notes<http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1009003-overview>that >>>>>>>> *"Ocular exposure may result in eye pain, redness, and >>>>>>>> lid swelling"*, but makes no mention of permanent blindness. Other >>>>>>>> medical >>>>>>>> articles describe dieffenbachia induced corneal >>>>>>>> injury<http://ukpmc.ac.uk/picrender.cgi?artid=1024685&blobtype=pdf>but >>>>>>>> again make no >>>>>>>> mention of permanent blindness....." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> end quote >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> - H.S. >>>>>> >>>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere >>>>>> heart of stone >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>>>> Royal Enclave, >>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>>> Bangalore- 560064 >>>>> India >>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) >>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>> Royal Enclave, >>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>> Bangalore- 560064 >>> India >>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) >>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> > -- Usha di =========== =========
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