Dear Rajesh Ji, I remember i enjoyed your posts in fb groups and that was even before i joined this efI group. I think of you as my own younger brother and as a dear friend. I know you have cordial relationship with all fb members and they love you deeply, and why not, you are so charming persona.
May i please ask you not to use "Dear Kokatta" when you have some complain against particular member of this group. With deep regards, Surajit Koley On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Rajesh Sachdev <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear Kolkatta, > > I am member of several groups related to not only flowers, but birds, > butterflies, reptiles, moths, amphibians, wildlife > activism, environmental laws, forest conservation and so on and so forth > (around 98 yahoo and 34 google groups, excluding 73 on Facebook) and I know > that what harms the computer of an individual or not. > > When I forwarded my message on one and only single group of itp (efI) , I > mentioned *some light please*, I assume an individual honourable member , > for the sake of rapidly replying, ignored my wording. > > If it was suppose to be spam it would have gone to thousands of my > contacts (my this email ID has contacts from Delhi to IUCN) and not only > efI. > > I read somewhere "We listen not for sake of understanding but for replying" > > I request moderators, to register their feedback on such counter attacks. > > Best regards > Rajesh sachdev > wildlife activist &photographer > mumbai, India > On 14 June 2012 20:22, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mani ji >> nothing is wrong in asking straight question...so next time something >> like this comes to your inbox, turn around and donot forward it, but take >> responsibility and start a new thread and ask ..... >> just write and say I got an email saying ... xyz is toxic... what's the >> truth... >> >> .... >> because these forwarded messages may be just a guise to bring in >> viruses... >> >> if your intention is to harm all your friends' computers and you dont >> care about their computers and time etc... keep forwarding the forwarded >> message >> >> >> look at the thread that I think you had forwarded, among the three in my >> message above, and read my response in it... >> i had said something similar then... >> >> lets use a little common sense... >> why would a hoaxter start a message like that with a picture? >> >> just for amusement >> melodrama >> or something more sinister like a trojan or another virus? >> pictures are a very guise for hiding stuff under the pictures language... >> -- >> if everything was innocent .... there would not be millions and millions >> of dollars spent on computer security.... and entire national security >> offices would not be set up.... >> >> If membership here does not take this seriously I give up... >> >> ----------Usha di >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM, mani nair <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> What is the harm in confirming whether it is true or false? It is far >>> better to clear our doubts by asking than keeping quiet. And to google our >>> doubts we will be in more trouble. >>> Regards, >>> Mani >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:01 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> DEAR ALL: >>>> I searched at Indiatreepix site for "HOAX... " >>>> 10 cases came up, a few were like the mars story, cherry in ice >>>> photo, hundreds of banans photos and like... funny pics I dont mind... >>>> >>>> but really emotional , often heart wrenching type of sob stories or >>>> pleas get attention and >>>> when it reaches me and I look into it and find its a hoax and educated >>>> folks send it to me or to the group ... it gets me... >>>> >>>> I have learned my lesson... 3 is enough... I will not open any >>>> forwarded/forwarded messages... if they are important... please copy paste >>>> in your own message and send it as new... or as look what came to me... >>>> >>>> the three that came to mind and are most damning are: >>>> >>>> 1... this thread.... >>>> >>>> Diffenbachia so toxic it kills hoax : >>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/Dn2yeJv223A/1mISk10NjmwJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lemon and cancer hoax >>>> >>>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/EKTKcH8Xdbs/gHeGZt0j-bwJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cancer chemotherapy and purported failure, claimed to be a well known >>>> univ hoax >>>> >>>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ...Usha >>>> di<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> >>>> >>>> ================= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:00 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> you are right Giby about getting a degree but no education... in >>>>> gujarati there is a proverb... loosely translated it says ...studied (got >>>>> degrees) but did not learn...[?], >>>>> all languages must have similar sayings... >>>>> >>>>> yes there is lot of junk on the net... but one must learn to separate >>>>> the grains from the chaff... at least that is taught in school in 4th >>>>> grade... >>>>> >>>>> but basically it goes down to the human heart mind and soul where one >>>>> needs to trust their own intuition and take everything that comes thru the >>>>> email with a grain of salt...or two... or even a large fistful as in these >>>>> ( forwarded times many ) cases... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> that's called growing up.... >>>>> >>>>> that's taught at family level... ask your parents... they are more >>>>> learned and wiser than often is the case// the cases of even many , if >>>>> not >>>>> all, college professors... >>>>> >>>>> usha di >>>>> == >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Education is generally scaled on the basis of marks that you have >>>>>> scored in examinations (where you have chances to forget things after the >>>>>> vacation!). Sometimes it is scaled on the basis of multiple choice >>>>>> questions. Chance favors here to some level depending upon individuals. >>>>>> The >>>>>> educated people came out with the degree and (mostly) without having >>>>>> basic >>>>>> knowledge. At some point you become restricted to some discipline that >>>>>> makes you blind at everything else. Whoever who has an open heart and >>>>>> mind >>>>>> would come and attack everything and get to know what is in it. >>>>>> >>>>>> So this is how things are happening, I guess. If I know something and >>>>>> if someone comes and ask, I would think that this person never got the >>>>>> chance I had got to understand this particular point/thing. I must have >>>>>> got >>>>>> it from some other source, by the way. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think that getting irritated is a remedy to make others know >>>>>> what we know/understood from nature or by reading or by interaction. If >>>>>> they have a good, ear, mind, heart (sometimes a combination of all these) >>>>>> would make them good student. >>>>>> If someone do not know which is right and which is wrong there is no >>>>>> point in searching in internet because there are more wrong than right! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and Regards, >>>>>> Giby >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 June 2012 23:09, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> yes Giby... i subscribe to the idea that there is always a different >>>>>>> viewpoint... >>>>>>> and you have a point that PEOPLE got EDUCATED NOW.... >>>>>>> and Thank you rajesh to ask!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bu it still gets me irritated that such gullibility exists in the >>>>>>> educated masses.. >>>>>>> .look at all the people in the forwarded messages list... . >>>>>>> in these days of internet where correct info is only a second two >>>>>>> away... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if I can find it, anybody can >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But as you say .... good for them... sela vie ... >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It can be the other way also. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> People who dont know about such things would get >>>>>>>> correct guidance and thereby the right knowledge. I don't feel anything >>>>>>>> wrong in gaining knowledge by circulating such things. But it should >>>>>>>> be in >>>>>>>> the right forum and fortunately we have many experts to get things >>>>>>>> corrected and take it to the right way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Further, It is better than not. Because so many people are blindly >>>>>>>> going after such fake (exciting) things that are geting forwarded in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> internet. I appreciate the courage of Rachesh to bring it up for an >>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>> discussion. I am sure he, and several other members, now got a clear >>>>>>>> picture on the same and such things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13 June 2012 22:40, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks mam for ur msg.. >>>>>>>>> People should know basic things before forwarding information... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Usha Di, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some people are allergic to certain common vegetables, even as >>>>>>>>>> common as brinjal or some edible araceae members, but that doesn't >>>>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>>> that we should tag those plants as "deadly poisonous". Yes, raphides >>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>> choke certain person, but i think they are exceptions to the common >>>>>>>>>> rule. >>>>>>>>>> Yet, my knowledge is so limited. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We have a saying in Bengali, you know, JEMON BUNO OL TEMNI BAGHA >>>>>>>>>> TENTUL, so if you face raphides get healed by tartaric acid!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:40 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DEAR RAJESH: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> BEFORE YOU entertain such emails that are forwarded and >>>>>>>>>>> forwarded ... >>>>>>>>>>> please ask questions whether you want to open it or entertain >>>>>>>>>>> the message in it.. >>>>>>>>>>> basic rule if its worth reading, somebody will sure send you a >>>>>>>>>>> write up in their own words... >>>>>>>>>>> or call you if they really wanted your well being... not >>>>>>>>>>> circulate ssuilly emails... melodramatic >>>>>>>>>>> hogwash.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This has happened here too often ... here.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS A HOAX..... >>>>>>>>>>> AGAIN AND AGAIN I HAVE SAID THAT EDUCATED INDIAN SHOULD >>>>>>>>>>> BE SMART ENOUGH TO NOT FALL PREY TO THESE..... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> YET some stupid overly sentimental jerk believes it and >>>>>>>>>>> these things make the rounds.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AND WHY IS THIS LADY SOOOOOOOOO WORRIED >>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT HER CHILDREN???/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MAY BE BECAUSE SHE LEAVES THEM WITH A BABY SITTER TO >>>>>>>>>>> GO OUT NOT ONLY TO OFFICE (which is a necessity) but to see >>>>>>>>>>> movies, >>>>>>>>>>> to kitty parties to nites out with friends...!!!!!!!! STAY >>>>>>>>>>> HOME WITH CHILDREN >>>>>>>>>>> AND TEACH THEM AND YOURSELF SOME GOOD SENSE.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AND DO SOME RESEARCH..... if these ladies have a computer to >>>>>>>>>>> receive >>>>>>>>>>> and send out these silly emails she must have enough >>>>>>>>>>> time and sense to do this research, it took me one second to >>>>>>>>>>> type >>>>>>>>>>> DIFFENBACHIA was introduced as houseplants when? by whom? >>>>>>>>>>> thinking that I could find the long history... >>>>>>>>>>> as a houseplant and allay the fears.... of the sender >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but second in the page of results was this URL: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Killer *House Plant* >>>>>>>>>>> Warning<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoax-slayer.com%2Fkiller-house-plant-warning.shtml&ei=z4rYT-_YGaGsiAfsiZ2VAw&usg=AFQjCNGrxaWfBAA1aOBBOVq8BXfB8fttpg> >>>>>>>>>>> www.hoax-slayer.com/killer-*house-plant*-warning.shtml >>>>>>>>>>> 11 May 2010 – Message claims that an *indoor plant* that is >>>>>>>>>>> commonly kept in homes and offices is *...* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and in the body of that writing is this paragraph..... *I >>>>>>>>>>> quote..*.. >>>>>>>>>>> " The plant depicted in the photograph is in fact a >>>>>>>>>>> dieffenbachia<http://houseplants.about.com/od/foliageplants/p/Dieffenbachia.htm> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> , a species commonly used as a potted house plant because of its >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> attractive appearance and its suitability for indoor, low light >>>>>>>>>>> intensity >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> growing environments. Dieffenbachia is indeed poisonous to >>>>>>>>>>> humans >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and animals if parts of the plant are ingested. Dieffenbachia is >>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> known as "Dumb Cane" because of the toxic effect it can have on >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the mouth and tongue if chewed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However, this warning quite significantly exaggerates the risk >>>>>>>>>>> of death >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> associated with dieffenbachia poisoning. The results of >>>>>>>>>>> dieffenbachia >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> poisoning are normally not life threatening and victims usually >>>>>>>>>>> make a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> full recovery. Given that eating the plant may potentially cause >>>>>>>>>>> swelling >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> severe enough to block the victim's airways, death *is* a >>>>>>>>>>> possible result. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However, research indicates that actual fatalities in humans are >>>>>>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> rare. Certainly, there are no credible medical reports that back >>>>>>>>>>> up the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> suggestion in the warning message that death is a common and >>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> rapid result of dieffenbachia poisoning. An article discussing >>>>>>>>>>> caladium, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> dieffenbachia, and philodendron plant poisoning published on the >>>>>>>>>>> Emedicine >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> website >>>>>>>>>>> notes<http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1009003-overview>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Patients with history of oral exposure (chewing and/or >>>>>>>>>>> swallowing) >>>>>>>>>>> have been reported to have severe swelling, drooling, dysphagia, >>>>>>>>>>> and respiratory compromise, but this is not common. In a large >>>>>>>>>>> retrospective study of 188 patients with plant oxalate exposure, >>>>>>>>>>> all cases were determined to be minor and all resolved with minor >>>>>>>>>>> or no treatment. Patients can also experience dermal and ocular >>>>>>>>>>> exposure, resulting in contact dermatitis or >>>>>>>>>>> keratoconjunctivitis. >>>>>>>>>>> Symptoms that result from these routes of exposure also appear >>>>>>>>>>> to resolve with supportive care. The serious complication of >>>>>>>>>>> aortoesophageal fistula following ingestion of a dieffenbachia >>>>>>>>>>> leaf >>>>>>>>>>> in a girl aged 12.5 years has been described in a single 2005 >>>>>>>>>>> case report. >>>>>>>>>>> The girl recovered following surgical intervention. * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And, the claim that rubbing your eyes after touching the plant >>>>>>>>>>> can cause >>>>>>>>>>> permanent blindness also seems to be an exaggeration. The >>>>>>>>>>> Emedicine >>>>>>>>>>> article >>>>>>>>>>> notes<http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1009003-overview>that >>>>>>>>>>> *"Ocular exposure may result in eye pain, redness, and >>>>>>>>>>> lid swelling"*, but makes no mention of permanent blindness. >>>>>>>>>>> Other medical >>>>>>>>>>> articles describe dieffenbachia induced corneal >>>>>>>>>>> injury<http://ukpmc.ac.uk/picrender.cgi?artid=1024685&blobtype=pdf>but >>>>>>>>>>> again make no >>>>>>>>>>> mention of permanent blindness....." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> end quote >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> - H.S. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere >>>>>>>>> heart of stone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>>>>>>> Royal Enclave, >>>>>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>>>>>> Bangalore- 560064 >>>>>>>> India >>>>>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) >>>>>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>>>>> Royal Enclave, >>>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>>>> Bangalore- 560064 >>>>>> India >>>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) >>>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> > > >
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