Sorry for typo, Rajesh Ji, i should had copy pasted instead of typing it, please read "Dear Kolkatta", in place of "Dear Kokatta".
Thank you & Regards, Surajit Koley On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear Rajesh Ji, > > I remember i enjoyed your posts in fb groups and that was even before i > joined this efI group. I think of you as my own younger brother and as a > dear friend. I know you have cordial relationship with all fb members and > they love you deeply, and why not, you are so charming persona. > > May i please ask you not to use "Dear Kokatta" when you have some complain > against particular member of this group. > > With deep regards, > > Surajit Koley > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Rajesh Sachdev <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Kolkatta, >> >> I am member of several groups related to not only flowers, but birds, >> butterflies, reptiles, moths, amphibians, wildlife >> activism, environmental laws, forest conservation and so on and so forth >> (around 98 yahoo and 34 google groups, excluding 73 on Facebook) and I know >> that what harms the computer of an individual or not. >> >> When I forwarded my message on one and only single group of itp (efI) , I >> mentioned *some light please*, I assume an individual honourable member >> , for the sake of rapidly replying, ignored my wording. >> >> If it was suppose to be spam it would have gone to thousands of my >> contacts (my this email ID has contacts from Delhi to IUCN) and not only >> efI. >> >> I read somewhere "We listen not for sake of understanding but for >> replying" >> >> I request moderators, to register their feedback on such counter attacks. >> >> Best regards >> Rajesh sachdev >> wildlife activist &photographer >> mumbai, India >> On 14 June 2012 20:22, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Mani ji >>> nothing is wrong in asking straight question...so next time something >>> like this comes to your inbox, turn around and donot forward it, but take >>> responsibility and start a new thread and ask ..... >>> just write and say I got an email saying ... xyz is toxic... what's the >>> truth... >>> >>> .... >>> because these forwarded messages may be just a guise to bring in >>> viruses... >>> >>> if your intention is to harm all your friends' computers and you dont >>> care about their computers and time etc... keep forwarding the forwarded >>> message >>> >>> >>> look at the thread that I think you had forwarded, among the three in >>> my message above, and read my response in it... >>> i had said something similar then... >>> >>> lets use a little common sense... >>> why would a hoaxter start a message like that with a picture? >>> >>> just for amusement >>> melodrama >>> or something more sinister like a trojan or another virus? >>> pictures are a very guise for hiding stuff under the pictures language... >>> -- >>> if everything was innocent .... there would not be millions and millions >>> of dollars spent on computer security.... and entire national security >>> offices would not be set up.... >>> >>> If membership here does not take this seriously I give up... >>> >>> ----------Usha di >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:51 PM, mani nair <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> What is the harm in confirming whether it is true or false? It is far >>>> better to clear our doubts by asking than keeping quiet. And to google our >>>> doubts we will be in more trouble. >>>> Regards, >>>> Mani >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:01 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> DEAR ALL: >>>>> I searched at Indiatreepix site for "HOAX... " >>>>> 10 cases came up, a few were like the mars story, cherry in ice >>>>> photo, hundreds of banans photos and like... funny pics I dont mind... >>>>> >>>>> but really emotional , often heart wrenching type of sob stories or >>>>> pleas get attention and >>>>> when it reaches me and I look into it and find its a hoax and educated >>>>> folks send it to me or to the group ... it gets me... >>>>> >>>>> I have learned my lesson... 3 is enough... I will not open any >>>>> forwarded/forwarded messages... if they are important... please copy paste >>>>> in your own message and send it as new... or as look what came to me... >>>>> >>>>> the three that came to mind and are most damning are: >>>>> >>>>> 1... this thread.... >>>>> >>>>> Diffenbachia so toxic it kills hoax : >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/Dn2yeJv223A/1mISk10NjmwJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lemon and cancer hoax >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/EKTKcH8Xdbs/gHeGZt0j-bwJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cancer chemotherapy and purported failure, claimed to be a well known >>>>> univ hoax >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ...Usha >>>>> di<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> >>>>> >>>>> ================= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:00 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> you are right Giby about getting a degree but no education... in >>>>>> gujarati there is a proverb... loosely translated it says ...studied (got >>>>>> degrees) but did not learn...[?], >>>>>> all languages must have similar sayings... >>>>>> >>>>>> yes there is lot of junk on the net... but one must learn to separate >>>>>> the grains from the chaff... at least that is taught in school in 4th >>>>>> grade... >>>>>> >>>>>> but basically it goes down to the human heart mind and soul where one >>>>>> needs to trust their own intuition and take everything that comes thru >>>>>> the >>>>>> email with a grain of salt...or two... or even a large fistful as in >>>>>> these >>>>>> ( forwarded times many ) cases... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> that's called growing up.... >>>>>> >>>>>> that's taught at family level... ask your parents... they are more >>>>>> learned and wiser than often is the case// the cases of even many , if >>>>>> not >>>>>> all, college professors... >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> == >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Education is generally scaled on the basis of marks that you have >>>>>>> scored in examinations (where you have chances to forget things after >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> vacation!). Sometimes it is scaled on the basis of multiple choice >>>>>>> questions. Chance favors here to some level depending upon individuals. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> educated people came out with the degree and (mostly) without having >>>>>>> basic >>>>>>> knowledge. At some point you become restricted to some discipline that >>>>>>> makes you blind at everything else. Whoever who has an open heart and >>>>>>> mind >>>>>>> would come and attack everything and get to know what is in it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So this is how things are happening, I guess. If I know something >>>>>>> and if someone comes and ask, I would think that this person never got >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> chance I had got to understand this particular point/thing. I must have >>>>>>> got >>>>>>> it from some other source, by the way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think that getting irritated is a remedy to make others know >>>>>>> what we know/understood from nature or by reading or by interaction. If >>>>>>> they have a good, ear, mind, heart (sometimes a combination of all >>>>>>> these) >>>>>>> would make them good student. >>>>>>> If someone do not know which is right and which is wrong there is no >>>>>>> point in searching in internet because there are more wrong than right! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and Regards, >>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 June 2012 23:09, ushadi Micromini >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes Giby... i subscribe to the idea that there is always a >>>>>>>> different viewpoint... >>>>>>>> and you have a point that PEOPLE got EDUCATED NOW.... >>>>>>>> and Thank you rajesh to ask!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bu it still gets me irritated that such gullibility exists in the >>>>>>>> educated masses.. >>>>>>>> .look at all the people in the forwarded messages list... . >>>>>>>> in these days of internet where correct info is only a second two >>>>>>>> away... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if I can find it, anybody can >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But as you say .... good for them... sela vie ... >>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It can be the other way also. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> People who dont know about such things would get >>>>>>>>> correct guidance and thereby the right knowledge. I don't feel >>>>>>>>> anything >>>>>>>>> wrong in gaining knowledge by circulating such things. But it should >>>>>>>>> be in >>>>>>>>> the right forum and fortunately we have many experts to get things >>>>>>>>> corrected and take it to the right way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Further, It is better than not. Because so many people are blindly >>>>>>>>> going after such fake (exciting) things that are geting forwarded in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> internet. I appreciate the courage of Rachesh to bring it up for an >>>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>>> discussion. I am sure he, and several other members, now got a clear >>>>>>>>> picture on the same and such things. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards >>>>>>>>> Giby >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13 June 2012 22:40, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks mam for ur msg.. >>>>>>>>>> People should know basic things before forwarding information... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Usha Di, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some people are allergic to certain common vegetables, even as >>>>>>>>>>> common as brinjal or some edible araceae members, but that doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>>>> that we should tag those plants as "deadly poisonous". Yes, >>>>>>>>>>> raphides may >>>>>>>>>>> choke certain person, but i think they are exceptions to the common >>>>>>>>>>> rule. >>>>>>>>>>> Yet, my knowledge is so limited. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We have a saying in Bengali, you know, JEMON BUNO OL TEMNI BAGHA >>>>>>>>>>> TENTUL, so if you face raphides get healed by tartaric acid!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:40 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> DEAR RAJESH: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> BEFORE YOU entertain such emails that are forwarded and >>>>>>>>>>>> forwarded ... >>>>>>>>>>>> please ask questions whether you want to open it or entertain >>>>>>>>>>>> the message in it.. >>>>>>>>>>>> basic rule if its worth reading, somebody will sure send you a >>>>>>>>>>>> write up in their own words... >>>>>>>>>>>> or call you if they really wanted your well being... not >>>>>>>>>>>> circulate ssuilly emails... melodramatic >>>>>>>>>>>> hogwash.... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This has happened here too often ... here.... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> THIS IS A HOAX..... >>>>>>>>>>>> AGAIN AND AGAIN I HAVE SAID THAT EDUCATED INDIAN SHOULD >>>>>>>>>>>> BE SMART ENOUGH TO NOT FALL PREY TO THESE..... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> YET some stupid overly sentimental jerk believes it and >>>>>>>>>>>> these things make the rounds.... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AND WHY IS THIS LADY SOOOOOOOOO WORRIED >>>>>>>>>>>> ABOUT HER CHILDREN???/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> MAY BE BECAUSE SHE LEAVES THEM WITH A BABY SITTER TO >>>>>>>>>>>> GO OUT NOT ONLY TO OFFICE (which is a necessity) but to see >>>>>>>>>>>> movies, >>>>>>>>>>>> to kitty parties to nites out with friends...!!!!!!!! STAY >>>>>>>>>>>> HOME WITH CHILDREN >>>>>>>>>>>> AND TEACH THEM AND YOURSELF SOME GOOD SENSE.... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AND DO SOME RESEARCH..... if these ladies have a computer to >>>>>>>>>>>> receive >>>>>>>>>>>> and send out these silly emails she must have enough >>>>>>>>>>>> time and sense to do this research, it took me one second to >>>>>>>>>>>> type >>>>>>>>>>>> DIFFENBACHIA was introduced as houseplants when? by whom? >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking that I could find the long history... >>>>>>>>>>>> as a houseplant and allay the fears.... of the sender >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but second in the page of results was this URL: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Killer *House Plant* >>>>>>>>>>>> Warning<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoax-slayer.com%2Fkiller-house-plant-warning.shtml&ei=z4rYT-_YGaGsiAfsiZ2VAw&usg=AFQjCNGrxaWfBAA1aOBBOVq8BXfB8fttpg> >>>>>>>>>>>> www.hoax-slayer.com/killer-*house-plant*-warning.shtml >>>>>>>>>>>> 11 May 2010 – Message claims that an *indoor plant* that is >>>>>>>>>>>> commonly kept in homes and offices is *...* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and in the body of that writing is this paragraph..... *I >>>>>>>>>>>> quote..*.. >>>>>>>>>>>> " The plant depicted in the photograph is in fact a >>>>>>>>>>>> dieffenbachia<http://houseplants.about.com/od/foliageplants/p/Dieffenbachia.htm> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> , a species commonly used as a potted house plant because of >>>>>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> attractive appearance and its suitability for indoor, low light >>>>>>>>>>>> intensity >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> growing environments. Dieffenbachia is indeed poisonous to >>>>>>>>>>>> humans >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and animals if parts of the plant are ingested. Dieffenbachia >>>>>>>>>>>> is also >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> known as "Dumb Cane" because of the toxic effect it can have on >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the mouth and tongue if chewed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, this warning quite significantly exaggerates the risk >>>>>>>>>>>> of death >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> associated with dieffenbachia poisoning. The results of >>>>>>>>>>>> dieffenbachia >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> poisoning are normally not life threatening and victims usually >>>>>>>>>>>> make a >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> full recovery. Given that eating the plant may potentially >>>>>>>>>>>> cause swelling >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> severe enough to block the victim's airways, death *is* a >>>>>>>>>>>> possible result. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, research indicates that actual fatalities in humans >>>>>>>>>>>> are extremely >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rare. Certainly, there are no credible medical reports that >>>>>>>>>>>> back up the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> suggestion in the warning message that death is a common and >>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rapid result of dieffenbachia poisoning. An article discussing >>>>>>>>>>>> caladium, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> dieffenbachia, and philodendron plant poisoning published on >>>>>>>>>>>> the Emedicine >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> website >>>>>>>>>>>> notes<http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1009003-overview>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Patients with history of oral exposure (chewing and/or >>>>>>>>>>>> swallowing) >>>>>>>>>>>> have been reported to have severe swelling, drooling, dysphagia, >>>>>>>>>>>> and respiratory compromise, but this is not common. In a large >>>>>>>>>>>> retrospective study of 188 patients with plant oxalate >>>>>>>>>>>> exposure, >>>>>>>>>>>> all cases were determined to be minor and all resolved with >>>>>>>>>>>> minor >>>>>>>>>>>> or no treatment. Patients can also experience dermal and >>>>>>>>>>>> ocular >>>>>>>>>>>> exposure, resulting in contact dermatitis or >>>>>>>>>>>> keratoconjunctivitis. >>>>>>>>>>>> Symptoms that result from these routes of exposure also appear >>>>>>>>>>>> to resolve with supportive care. The serious complication of >>>>>>>>>>>> aortoesophageal fistula following ingestion of a dieffenbachia >>>>>>>>>>>> leaf >>>>>>>>>>>> in a girl aged 12.5 years has been described in a single 2005 >>>>>>>>>>>> case report. >>>>>>>>>>>> The girl recovered following surgical intervention. * >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And, the claim that rubbing your eyes after touching the plant >>>>>>>>>>>> can cause >>>>>>>>>>>> permanent blindness also seems to be an exaggeration. The >>>>>>>>>>>> Emedicine >>>>>>>>>>>> article >>>>>>>>>>>> notes<http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1009003-overview>that >>>>>>>>>>>> *"Ocular exposure may result in eye pain, redness, and >>>>>>>>>>>> lid swelling"*, but makes no mention of permanent blindness. >>>>>>>>>>>> Other medical >>>>>>>>>>>> articles describe dieffenbachia induced corneal >>>>>>>>>>>> injury<http://ukpmc.ac.uk/picrender.cgi?artid=1024685&blobtype=pdf>but >>>>>>>>>>>> again make no >>>>>>>>>>>> mention of permanent blindness....." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> end quote >>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> - H.S. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere >>>>>>>>>> heart of stone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>>>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>>>>>>>> Royal Enclave, >>>>>>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>>>>>>> Bangalore- 560064 >>>>>>>>> India >>>>>>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) >>>>>>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>>>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>>>>>> Royal Enclave, >>>>>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>>>>> Bangalore- 560064 >>>>>>> India >>>>>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) >>>>>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >>> >> >> >> >
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