DEAR ALL: I searched at Indiatreepix site for "HOAX... " 10 cases came up, a few were like the mars story, cherry in ice photo, hundreds of banans photos and like... funny pics I dont mind...
but really emotional , often heart wrenching type of sob stories or pleas get attention and when it reaches me and I look into it and find its a hoax and educated folks send it to me or to the group ... it gets me... I have learned my lesson... 3 is enough... I will not open any forwarded/forwarded messages... if they are important... please copy paste in your own message and send it as new... or as look what came to me... the three that came to mind and are most damning are: 1... this thread.... Diffenbachia so toxic it kills hoax : https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/Dn2yeJv223A/1mISk10NjmwJ Lemon and cancer hoax https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/EKTKcH8Xdbs/gHeGZt0j-bwJ Cancer chemotherapy and purported failure, claimed to be a well known univ hoax https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ ...Usha di<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> ================= <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/hoax/indiantreepix/WrgsZiFS5iU/i9sn-EBoFHgJ> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:00 AM, ushadi Micromini <[email protected] > wrote: > you are right Giby about getting a degree but no education... in gujarati > there is a proverb... loosely translated it says ...studied (got degrees) > but did not learn...[?], > all languages must have similar sayings... > > yes there is lot of junk on the net... but one must learn to separate the > grains from the chaff... at least that is taught in school in 4th grade... > > but basically it goes down to the human heart mind and soul where one > needs to trust their own intuition and take everything that comes thru the > email with a grain of salt...or two... or even a large fistful as in these > ( forwarded times many ) cases... > > > that's called growing up.... > > that's taught at family level... ask your parents... they are more learned > and wiser than often is the case// the cases of even many , if not all, > college professors... > > usha di > == > > > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Giby Kuriakose <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> >> Education is generally scaled on the basis of marks that you have scored >> in examinations (where you have chances to forget things after the >> vacation!). Sometimes it is scaled on the basis of multiple choice >> questions. Chance favors here to some level depending upon individuals. The >> educated people came out with the degree and (mostly) without having basic >> knowledge. At some point you become restricted to some discipline that >> makes you blind at everything else. Whoever who has an open heart and mind >> would come and attack everything and get to know what is in it. >> >> So this is how things are happening, I guess. If I know something and if >> someone comes and ask, I would think that this person never got the chance >> I had got to understand this particular point/thing. I must have got it >> from some other source, by the way. >> >> I don't think that getting irritated is a remedy to make others know what >> we know/understood from nature or by reading or by interaction. If they >> have a good, ear, mind, heart (sometimes a combination of all these) would >> make them good student. >> If someone do not know which is right and which is wrong there is no >> point in searching in internet because there are more wrong than right! >> >> >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Giby >> >> >> >> >> >> On 13 June 2012 23:09, ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> yes Giby... i subscribe to the idea that there is always a different >>> viewpoint... >>> and you have a point that PEOPLE got EDUCATED NOW.... >>> and Thank you rajesh to ask!!! >>> >>> bu it still gets me irritated that such gullibility exists in the >>> educated masses.. >>> .look at all the people in the forwarded messages list... . >>> in these days of internet where correct info is only a second two away... >>> >>> if I can find it, anybody can >>> >>> But as you say .... good for them... sela vie ... >>> Usha di >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Giby Kuriakose < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It can be the other way also. >>>> >>>> People who dont know about such things would get correct guidance and >>>> thereby the right knowledge. I don't feel anything wrong in gaining >>>> knowledge by circulating such things. But it should be in the right forum >>>> and fortunately we have many experts to get things corrected and take it to >>>> the right way. >>>> >>>> Further, It is better than not. Because so many people are blindly >>>> going after such fake (exciting) things that are geting forwarded in the >>>> internet. I appreciate the courage of Rachesh to bring it up for an open >>>> discussion. I am sure he, and several other members, now got a clear >>>> picture on the same and such things. >>>> >>>> Thanks and Regards >>>> Giby >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 June 2012 22:40, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks mam for ur msg.. >>>>> People should know basic things before forwarding information... >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Usha Di, >>>>>> >>>>>> Some people are allergic to certain common vegetables, even as common >>>>>> as brinjal or some edible araceae members, but that doesn't mean that we >>>>>> should tag those plants as "deadly poisonous". Yes, raphides may choke >>>>>> certain person, but i think they are exceptions to the common rule. Yet, >>>>>> my >>>>>> knowledge is so limited. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have a saying in Bengali, you know, JEMON BUNO OL TEMNI BAGHA >>>>>> TENTUL, so if you face raphides get healed by tartaric acid!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:40 PM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> DEAR RAJESH: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BEFORE YOU entertain such emails that are forwarded and forwarded >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> please ask questions whether you want to open it or entertain the >>>>>>> message in it.. >>>>>>> basic rule if its worth reading, somebody will sure send you a write >>>>>>> up in their own words... >>>>>>> or call you if they really wanted your well being... not circulate >>>>>>> ssuilly emails... melodramatic >>>>>>> hogwash.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This has happened here too often ... here.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> THIS IS A HOAX..... >>>>>>> AGAIN AND AGAIN I HAVE SAID THAT EDUCATED INDIAN SHOULD >>>>>>> BE SMART ENOUGH TO NOT FALL PREY TO THESE..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> YET some stupid overly sentimental jerk believes it and >>>>>>> these things make the rounds.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AND WHY IS THIS LADY SOOOOOOOOO WORRIED >>>>>>> ABOUT HER CHILDREN???/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MAY BE BECAUSE SHE LEAVES THEM WITH A BABY SITTER TO >>>>>>> GO OUT NOT ONLY TO OFFICE (which is a necessity) but to see movies, >>>>>>> to kitty parties to nites out with friends...!!!!!!!! STAY HOME >>>>>>> WITH CHILDREN >>>>>>> AND TEACH THEM AND YOURSELF SOME GOOD SENSE.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AND DO SOME RESEARCH..... if these ladies have a computer to >>>>>>> receive >>>>>>> and send out these silly emails she must have enough >>>>>>> time and sense to do this research, it took me one second to type >>>>>>> DIFFENBACHIA was introduced as houseplants when? by whom? >>>>>>> thinking that I could find the long history... >>>>>>> as a houseplant and allay the fears.... of the sender >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but second in the page of results was this URL: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>> 2. Killer *House Plant* >>>>>>> Warning<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoax-slayer.com%2Fkiller-house-plant-warning.shtml&ei=z4rYT-_YGaGsiAfsiZ2VAw&usg=AFQjCNGrxaWfBAA1aOBBOVq8BXfB8fttpg> >>>>>>> www.hoax-slayer.com/killer-*house-plant*-warning.shtml >>>>>>> 11 May 2010 – Message claims that an *indoor plant* that is >>>>>>> commonly kept in homes and offices is *...* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and in the body of that writing is this paragraph..... *I quote..* >>>>>>> .. >>>>>>> " The plant depicted in the photograph is in fact a >>>>>>> dieffenbachia<http://houseplants.about.com/od/foliageplants/p/Dieffenbachia.htm> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> , a species commonly used as a potted house plant because of its >>>>>>> >>>>>>> attractive appearance and its suitability for indoor, low light >>>>>>> intensity >>>>>>> >>>>>>> growing environments. Dieffenbachia is indeed poisonous to humans >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and animals if parts of the plant are ingested. Dieffenbachia is >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> >>>>>>> known as "Dumb Cane" because of the toxic effect it can have on >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the mouth and tongue if chewed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, this warning quite significantly exaggerates the risk of >>>>>>> death >>>>>>> >>>>>>> associated with dieffenbachia poisoning. The results of >>>>>>> dieffenbachia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> poisoning are normally not life threatening and victims usually make >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> full recovery. Given that eating the plant may potentially cause >>>>>>> swelling >>>>>>> >>>>>>> severe enough to block the victim's airways, death *is* a possible >>>>>>> result. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, research indicates that actual fatalities in humans are >>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>> >>>>>>> rare. Certainly, there are no credible medical reports that back up >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> suggestion in the warning message that death is a common and very >>>>>>> >>>>>>> rapid result of dieffenbachia poisoning. An article discussing >>>>>>> caladium, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dieffenbachia, and philodendron plant poisoning published on the >>>>>>> Emedicine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> website notes<http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1009003-overview>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Patients with history of oral exposure (chewing and/or >>>>>>> swallowing) >>>>>>> have been reported to have severe swelling, drooling, dysphagia, >>>>>>> and respiratory compromise, but this is not common. In a large >>>>>>> retrospective study of 188 patients with plant oxalate exposure, >>>>>>> all cases were determined to be minor and all resolved with minor >>>>>>> or no treatment. Patients can also experience dermal and ocular >>>>>>> exposure, resulting in contact dermatitis or keratoconjunctivitis. >>>>>>> Symptoms that result from these routes of exposure also appear >>>>>>> to resolve with supportive care. The serious complication of >>>>>>> aortoesophageal fistula following ingestion of a dieffenbachia leaf >>>>>>> in a girl aged 12.5 years has been described in a single 2005 case >>>>>>> report. >>>>>>> The girl recovered following surgical intervention. * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And, the claim that rubbing your eyes after touching the plant can >>>>>>> cause >>>>>>> permanent blindness also seems to be an exaggeration. The Emedicine >>>>>>> article >>>>>>> notes<http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1009003-overview>that >>>>>>> *"Ocular exposure may result in eye pain, redness, and >>>>>>> lid swelling"*, but makes no mention of permanent blindness. Other >>>>>>> medical >>>>>>> articles describe dieffenbachia induced corneal >>>>>>> injury<http://ukpmc.ac.uk/picrender.cgi?artid=1024685&blobtype=pdf>but >>>>>>> again make no >>>>>>> mention of permanent blindness....." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> end quote >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> - H.S. >>>>> >>>>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere >>>>> heart of stone >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >>>> Royal Enclave, >>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >>>> Bangalore- 560064 >>>> India >>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) >>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >> Royal Enclave, >> Jakkur Post, Srirampura >> Bangalore- 560064 >> India >> Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) >> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >> > > > > -- > Usha di > =========== > > -- Usha di ===========
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