Dear Archer,

Many Thanks for sharing Ms. Jordan's expert views with the group. 

Regards,

Samir Mehta




On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:18:23 PM UTC+5:30, Robert H. Archer wrote:
>
>  Dear Mahta, Garg ji
>
>  
>
> I confirmed this with Ms Jordaan, the authority on the genus Gymnosporia. 
> This is definitely a good species but it should be listed as Gymnosporia 
> puberula M.A.Lawson. It looks very different from Gymnosporia senegalensis. 
> According to a number of studies it is now very clear there is no species 
> of Maytenus in India or anywhere else but South America. 
>
>  
>
> With best wishes, Robert
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>  
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> *From:* jmgarg1 [mailto:[email protected]] 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:52 AM
> *To:* efloraofindia
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> *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:121544] Maytenus puberula (M.A.Lawson) 
> Loes. @ Prabalgad 01-07-2012
>  
>  
>
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:       
>
> “Dr Mahta,
> Why not Maytenus senegalensis ?” from Rajesh ji.
>
>  
>
> “That's one of the things I considered Rajesh ji,but* according to the 
> keys Maytenus senegalensis is an 'armed' plant plus what really was 
> decisive was the hair on the veins below, both FoM & FBI mention it, though 
> the latter calls it puberulous and the former hispid. **
> *I will also like to point out that certain features [in this case - hair 
> on the leaf under-surface] are missed in the field & appreciated only on 
> post-processing. My field id was Maytenus sp.
>
> I am still open to correction provided a logical reason is given.
>
> Trust that answers your query.
>
> Regards,
>
> Samir Mehta”
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>
>  
>  
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Samir Mehta* <[email protected]>
> Date: 8 July 2012 20:20
> Subject: [efloraofindia:121544] Maytenus puberula (M.A.Lawson) Loes. @ 
> Prabalgad 01-07-2012
> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>
>
> Dear Fellow Group-Members,
>
> Got a chance to go to Prabalgad with a trekking group, had wanted to go 
> there for a long time, after seeing Prasant ji's posts from that area. As 
> was to be expected, it was more of a trek than a flower watching trip - and 
> a difficult one too.
>
> Spotted this large unarmed shrub just short of Prabal machi, about ? 1000 
> ft asl, the lower surface of the leaf had hairs on the veins (cannot 
> remember whether they were hispid or puberulous); flower size was 
> approx.1cm.
>
> There seems to be some confusion in the taxonomic nomenclature (unresolved 
> in the plant list and not listed at ARS-GRIN and FoC or Fl Pakistan). 
> The id is based on Fl. Maharashtra 1:241 & 243, but here flowering season 
> is given as Dec-Jan, needs to be checked and FBI 1:619.
> The shrub is not listed in Shrikant ji's Flowers of Sahyadri or Further 
> Flowers of Sahyadri and no image of it was available for comparison in 
> the group database or on the net.
>
> Will appreciate if this post can be validated.
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>
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