Dinesh Ji,

I wish to visit the place as soon as possible and take pics of flowers and
pods, if available.
Also i will search my old archives for the original copies of those cropped
pics i attached. I hope i didn't delete the originals, what i often do to
save my hard-disk space.

Regards,

surajit


On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:

> Surajit ji, can we get nearer to some flowers at whatever best focus - by
> cropping original pictures (old_VSCN6223.jpg OR old_VSCN6225.jpg) ?
> Hopefully some time later, you may even get to capture the seedpods -- may
> give us good lead.
> My thought is - some species of *Aeschynomene*.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:34 PM, surajit koley <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Neil Sir,
>>
>> I also thought that it might be a *Sesbania* species, specially, *Sesbania
>> cannabina* (Retz.) 
>> Pers.<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xaUdJoZOLeI/discussion>
>>  (or
>> DHONCHE in Bengali), more so because DHONCHE is cultivated in many places
>> in Hooghly, including that particular place and in this very rainy season.
>>
>> Yesterday, i worked for almost 2 hrs. just to understand what does
>> mucronate or truncate or apiculate or obliquely rounded leaf mean. I paste
>> below my homework!
>>
>>
>> Leaflet apex  = rounded and mucronate = *Aeschynomene indica* 
>> L<http://www.fao.org/ag/AGP/AGPC/doc/Gbase/DATA/Pf000003.HTM>
>> .
>> Leaflet apex = obtuse or truncate-apiculate = *Sesbania cannabina* (Retz.)
>> Poir. <http://www.fao.org/ag/AGP/AGPC/doc/Gbase/data/pf000169.htm>
>>
>>    1. http://web3.dnp.go.th/botany/BFC/image/leaf/leaf_apex.jpg
>>    2.
>>    
>> http://www.plantbiology.siu.edu/PLB304/Lecture02VegMorph/images/LeafApexLawrence.jpg
>>    3. http://www.nswildflora.ca/glossary/Grays/Figs103ffTips.jpg
>>    4.
>>    
>> http://www.eeob.iastate.edu/classes/bio366/terminology/vegetative/images/leaves/apices.jpg
>>    5. http://www.kswildflower.org/drawings/leafapex.jpg
>>
>> Leaflet base = obliquely rounded = *Aeschynomene indica* 
>> L.<http://www.fao.org/ag/AGP/AGPC/doc/Gbase/DATA/Pf000003.HTM>
>>
>>    1. http://www.pssc.ttu.edu/techhort/structur/leaves/bases.htm
>>    2.
>>    
>> http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/abrs/online-resources/glossaries/vascular/images/lbase.jpg
>>
>> Leaflet size : *Aeschynomene indica* L = 2.5-6.5 mm long, 1.2-2.0 mm
>> broad =
>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200011865
>> Leaflet size = .*Sesbania cannabina* (Retz.) Poir. = 8-20(-40) ×
>> 2.5-4(-7) mm =
>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200012310
>>
>> Description = *Aeschynomene indica* L. =
>> http://www.prota4u.org/protav8.asp?g=psk&p=Aeschynomene+indica+L.
>> Description = *Sesbania cannabina* (Retz.) Poir. =
>> http://www.fao.org/ag/AGP/AGPC/doc/Gbase/data/pf000169.htm
>>
>> The above homework led me to *Aeschynomene* species. Only leaflet size
>> doesn't match.
>>
>> Now, as i read the description of *Sesbania bispinosa* at FoP (
>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242348734)
>> the same size problem arises, leaflet in this species measures at about 4
>> cm x more than 7 mm.
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> surajit
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Neil Soares <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>  This one also looks like Sesbania bisphinosa.
>>>                      With regards,
>>>                        Neil Soares.
>>>
>>> --- On *Wed, 9/26/12, surajit koley <[email protected]>*wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:132613] Fabaceae herb ID 26/9/2012 SK
>>> To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:36 PM
>>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> I thought it was SHOLAPITH (*Aeschynomene*), i have been told so by
>>> local residents, but leaflets are much bigger. I attach pictures of four
>>> individuals, and also two old records of the same plant.
>>>
>>> Species : UNKNOWN
>>> Habit & Habitat : wild under-shrub in ditches and flooded lowland at
>>> village outskirts, 5 feet or more tall
>>> Date : 18/8/12 & 25/9/10 (old, with flowers)
>>> Place : Khanpur (Hooghly)
>>>
>>> Thank you & Regards,
>>>
>>> surajit
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>  --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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