We've encountered a few problems with popular utilities and languages
interacting with AFS. When possible, we tried to contact the vendor 
ourselves but generally get nowhere. As a user community we could 
collect known problems and centralize this in some data base under AFS.  
I have been working with the folks at Transarc with the hope that they
would appoint a "CZAR" who could represent our interests to the various
vendors. What this person could do is to keep track of the reported problems, 
the number of reported complaints, report them to the appropriate 
vendor, and to maintain a current status of the problems.

Are there others out there who would like to see this happen? Do you
know any problems that you think others should know about or 
that you would like reported? If so, then please reply so that Transarc
can get a feel of the level of interest. Here is a brief discription
of the problems we encountered over the past several months:


RSH :   Under HPUX 9.01 this doesn't work. 

CVS :   There is a problem with the way CVS performs its locking when
        the files are within AFS. When your current PTS id != your uid,
        the locks are not deleted.  The stat() system call returns
        the PTS id of the owner. If that id != your uid, CVS assumes
        you did not lock it, and leaves the lock files alone.  The
        next time you try to use it, it complains that someone has
        the repository locked.

C++ :   Things fail when the ptlink tries to move the resulting object 
        into the "repository" directory, likely caused by ptlink using
        link and unlink. This fails in afs if the target is not in the 
        same directory as the source.


Michael Ganzberger

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