Hi everyone,

I realized that we already have the latest version of Zanata in the
production environment [1].

[1]:https://translate.zanata.org/

Thanks,

firemanxbr


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Carlos Munoz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> One option we have is to create a Role within Zanata and restrict access
> to all Fedora projects to users of that Role only. This would guarantee
> that only users members of that role would be able to translate the
> 'Fedora' projects and only for their assigned languages.
>
> We currently have something like that set up on the public Zanata instance
> (translate.zanata.org) where anyone with a fedora account gets
> automatically assigned to the 'Fedora' role and is able to translate
> projects restricted to that role.
>
> Let me know if we need to discuss this further.
>
> Regards,
>
> Carlos A. Munoz
> Software Engineering Supervisor
> Engineering - Internationalization
> Red Hat
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noriko Mizumoto" <[email protected]>
> To: "Marcelo Barbosa" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Fedora Infrastructure" <[email protected]>,
> "Fedora Translation Project List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 2:48:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary
>
> (2014年07月11日 13:41), Marcelo Barbosa wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> >     We may collect the Transifex all Coordinators, Reviewers and
> > Translators through the API, for example:
> >     $ curl -i -L --user username:password -X GET
> > https://www.transifex.com/api/2/project/fedora/language/pt_BR/
> >
> >     Think this activity will diminish the impact of migration.
> >     Today we have the teams names entry Zanata different of wiki page
> > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Teams) and too Transifex, for
> > example, in the case of my team in Zanata this: "pt-br" and in our wiki
> > this "pt_br" and Transifex "pt_BR", I believe our default is wiki, in my
> > opinion.
>
> Agree, our default is wiki.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Teams
>
> >     The steps for
> > migrations(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Move_To_Zanata) is
> > necessary creating the group "Fedora", from what I understand in of
> > Zanata a group should have the "Fedora", in languages would be the teams
> > and designs belong to a group, I believe that the relationship is this,
> > if I'm wrong please correct me.
>
> I am not too sure if the group in zanata works as it has been working at
> transifex. Here we need an input from zanata team, Luke, Carlos?
>
> afaik, currently zanata has only one set of language teams.
> Thus translator belonging to xx-XX can translate any file for xx-XX of
> any project registered. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding.
> * Zanata/Language Team/xx-XX
>
> We may need separate set of language teams to control access, since
> there are other projects which is not part of Fedora.
> This restricts translator who is not belonging to particular umbrella
> (group, org, whatever called) from translating file(s) of that umbrella.
> * Zanata/Fedora/Language Team/xx-XX
> * Zanata/Project_Name/Language Team/xx-XX
>
> Transifex has had this feature. Thus there is no need to worry that
> non-member of xx-XX of the language team under that umbrella modifies a
> file.
> * Tx/Fedora/Language Team/xx-XX
> * Tx/Transifex/Language Team/xx-XX
> * Tx/Project_Name/Language Team/xx-XX
>
> I've requested this feature sometime ago, but unable to locate the
> bug... This is the one listed under 'Concerns'.
>
> Btw, unless Infrastructure team needs to track this discussion for some
> maintenance reason, can we discuss at trans list only as many of
> translators have not subscribed infrastructure list?
>
> noriko
>
> >      I hope the new version of Zanata (3.4.2) is faster, because for me
> > the test platform is a little slow.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > firemanxbr
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Noriko Mizumoto
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Dimitris
> >
> >     I've read your thread posted in Infra.
> >     Indeed, it is sad to hear but understand your position.
> >     It was just like yesterday, we moved from elvis to transifex. Since
> >     then, you have been supporting us translators 24/7. I thank you so
> >     much from my heart, can't say enough.
> >     I support the move to zanata, but I don't think that our
> >     relationship is fading out.
> >
> >
> >     Robyn, thanks for copying trans at lists.
> >     I believe that this (trans list) is the place to discuss and decide
> >     the way we go as translators.
> >
> >     Thanks again
> >
> >     noriko
> >
> >
> >
> >     (2014年07月10日 22:01), Robyn Bergeron wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >         ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >             From: "Kevin Fenzi" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]
> >>
> >             To: infrastructure@lists.__fedoraproject.org
> >             <mailto:[email protected]>
> >             Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 9:53:48 AM
> >             Subject: Re: Transifex has become proprietary
> >
> >             On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:11:45 +0200
> >             Pierre-Yves Chibon <[email protected]
> >             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >                 On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:25:41AM -0400, Rahul Sundaram
> >                 wrote:
> >
> >                          Hi
> >
> >                          On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre-Yves
> >                     ChibonA  wrote:
> >
> >                            What are they?
> >
> >                          I haven't spent a lot of time looking up
> >                     alternatives but I am
> >                     aware of the following:
> >
> >                     http://zanata.org/ developed by Red Hat
> >
> >                          Translatewiki which is apparently what
> >                     MediaGoblin is considering
> >
> >                     https://issues.mediagoblin.__org/ticket/913
> >                     <https://issues.mediagoblin.org/ticket/913>
> >
> >
> >                 For the record, I support the move away from Transifex
> >                 and will relay
> >                 the sad news to the projects where I have before advice
> >                 for it.
> >
> >                 The question is of course moving to what? That's
> >                 something I cannot
> >                 advice on atm.
> >
> >
> >             Yeah. There's also some more mentioned in the above
> >             mediagoblin ticket.
> >
> >             Would someone care to look at them all and provide some
> >             summary about
> >             each and how well they might work for our needs?
> >
> >
> >         Copying the trans list since they probably have some good input
> >         about their needs :) (And nothing on this topic in their
> >         archives, not sure how much overlap between these two lists.)
> >
> >         For the translations team's reference -
> >         https://lists.fedoraproject.
> __org/pipermail/infrastructure/__2014-July/014475.html
> >         <
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2014-July/014475.html
> >
> >         is the original mail Rahul posted on the subject.
> >
> >         -Robyn
> >
> >
> >             kevin
> >
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