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                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Rodd Clarkson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Sent:   Monday, 17 May 2004 10:59
                To:     Ellis, Peter
                Cc:     '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
                Subject:        RE: sec: unclassified -  News Article - The
Ethics of Torture

                On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 17:06 +1000, Ellis, Peter wrote:
                > Ah, it's just war, Rodd. Or is that "just war", or Just
War?

                There's nothing 'just' about this war.  

                [snip]

Well, not commenting so much as replying in a fashion...

Because I am the author I will selectively quote from a private reply I sent
to another list member today. 

                "I have felt reconciled to being a warrior as my profession,
and have carried a gun that I was prepared to use, even if the nearest I
came to 'foreign' people was legally licensed fishermen operating within
their license provisions. Oh, and the Soviet ships sailing under right of
free passage. 

                [snip] 
                I am also fascinated by what will occur in the US election
race for 2004. I have the feeling that Bush will be spending his treasure
chest to no avail; that United States Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will
be found to have at least tacitly sanctioned the "any measures"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1109417.htm. I have, over my desk, a
copy of the (famous) Malcolm Mackerras "pendulum"
http://www.pol.adfa.edu.au/staff/mackerras.html, in this case the one that
he did for the US election, published in the Australian of 16FEB04. It has
John Kerry winning by a wide margin. And that pre-dated [snip] the gaol!

                [snip]
                Stereotyping is so easy, isn't it! As my Dutch colleague
here jokes, "I hate only two things: bigots and Dutchmen."  "

So, Rodd. We live in interesting times.

Peter
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