Rob wrote:
The wonder of the gospel is that this is actually good news as it
sets us free from ourselves for communion with God, other people and
creation. God transforms us, not because we are entitled, but when we are
not entitled.
Ann wrote:
The problem for those of us who recognise that prosperity theology is
not the Gospel is that we often preach a message not very different, by
encouraging a sense of self-worth, but not balancing it with concepts of
discipleship, self-giving love, taking up our cross, etc.
Trevor responds:
Jumping ahead a couple of steps in the thinking process, these
responses suggest that (IMO) the real problem confronting the Body of
Christ is not the pews full of greying heads, nor the arguments about gay
clergy, ministry of women etc etc.
ISTM that the real problem for the Church is how to present a believable
message which is the complete reverse of the culture of the day. How does
the Church present messages like "take up your cross and follow
me" or "When Christ calls a man, he bids him come and die"
to a society which is bombarded from all directions by messages of
self-fulfillment, a society which is being filled with expectations of
entitlement? How does an apparently weakening Church swim against such a
tide, a tide powered by the major political and commercial forces in
society, a tide which is constantly reinforced by a compliant (and
self-interested) media?
For me, a depressing thing about most recent election campaigns has been
the sameness of the messages from all sides, namely "Have we got a
deal for you", with the emphasis on the "you". Somewhere
in all that election rhetoric, was there a vision of a better Australia,
a fairer Australia, a more compassionate Australia, an Australian
community? Did I miss something in the 15 second sound bites?
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- Entitlement Trevor Mattiske
- Re: Entitlement Rob Bos
- Re: Entitlement Ann Wansbrough
- RE: Entitlement Trevor Mattiske
- RE: Entitlement Judy Redman
- Entitlement Rob Bos
- Re: Entitlement Stephen Webb
- Re: Entitlement Clare Pascoe Henderson
- Re: Entitlement Sue Bolton
- Re: Entitlement: apology Sue Bolton
- Re: Entitlement Sue Bolton
- Re: Entitlement Lindsay Cullen
- Re: Entitlement Sue Bolton
- Re: Entitlement Darren Wright
