On 12/10/2004, at 14:20, Sue Bolton wrote:

I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and have decided that the
only way we can ['swim against such a tide'] is to rid our church/es
of
1. nostalgia [for the 'good old days'],
2. triumphalism and prosperity gospel, and
3. the expectation that things [as far as the church is concerned] are
going to get much better this side of eternity.

I've got no problem with (1) or (2) and I understand what you're getting at with (3), but my concern about (3) is that too many people already have this belief and it becomes a reason for not doing any of the hard yards towards God's Kingdom. "Oh well, nothing will ever change, so I'll just preach and hope people's souls get saved while the world goes to Hell in a handbasket."

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